Oswald in the doorway: the blog of the Oswald Innocence Campaign, by Ralph Cinque

bpete1969

On the contrary, you stated that the miracles of Christ were nothing but “common tricks”. If his miracles were mere “magic” as you described, then the miracles of your Torah were mere magic considering the were done by the same God. Nice try but again, you failed.

I would also suggest you study the Gospels of the New Testament for any reference to Jesus Christ and his lineage and the fulfillment of prophecy as opposed to the Tosefta or other materials written by Jews that not only deny the divinity of Christ but invent out of whole cloth, stories and fables to justify the rejection of Christ by Jews. The conversion of Paul was a miracle as well, and his continued life of evangelizing and persecution is a testament itself as to the divinity of Jesus Christ and his common tricks. 

So, you're a Christian. I'm not surprised. How could someone as nasty and rotten as you be a Christian? It's easy. It happens all the time. I have no delusions about Christianity. But, that is not to say that you are not a hypocrite. 

As for Lovelady's testimony, you like playing that 3 minute remark like a trump card, don't you, bpete? 

"I thought it was firecrackers or somebody celebrating the arrival of the President. It didn't occur to me at first what had happened until this Gloria came running up to us and told us the President had been shot."

So, it goes from the shots to Gloria Calvary running up and telling them that the President had been shot. How long do you think it took Gloria to do that? I think we can safely assume: not very long at all, and certainly not 3 minutes. That's because by the 3 minute mark, Lovelady would have known independent of Gloria. News travels fast. 

"Yes, sir; to my right. I was standing as you are going down the steps, I was standing on the right, sounded like it was in that area."

Lovelady did a good job there of designating his position. You know how confusing it can be with right and left, depending on whose perspective. But, he said, "as you are going down the steps, I was standing on the right." 

So, at that point, he's at the bottom of the steps on the west side. Earlier, when the Altgens photo was taken, he was "on your top level". How do we know? Because he said he was "on your top level." 

So, the implication of that testimony is that as soon as Altgens snapped his picture, Lovelady moved down the steps. 

So, during the shooting, Lovelady was on the top level. This is him.

And then, he immediately walked down the steps to the sidewalk, and that's where he had his encounter with Gloria Calvary.

Mr. BALL - Now, when Gloria came up you were standing near Mr. Shelley?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yeah.
Mr. BALL - When Gloria came up and said the President had been shot, Gloria Calvary, what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I asked who told her. She said he had been shot so we asked her was she for certain or just had she seen the shot hit him or--she said yes, she had been right close to it to see and she had saw the blood and knew he had been hit but didn't know how serious it was and so the crowd had started towards the railroad tracks back, you know, behind our building there and we run towards that little, old island and kind of down there in that little street. We went as far as the first tracks and everybody was hollering and crying and policemen started running out that way and we said we better get back into the building, so we went back into the west entrance on the back dock had that low ramp and went into the back dock back inside the building. 

So, Lovelady was on the top, and walked down the steps and interfaced with Gloria Calvary. Was he on the sidewalk or on a lower step? He didn't say, so we really don't know. But, this had to be very soon after the shooting because of the very fact that they didn't know what had happened. You can't tell me that that would have been true 3 minutes later. 

So, they interacted with Gloria, and then, he and Shelley left for the railroad tracks. 

Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes. 

So, Lovelady left with Shelley, and after they had walked 20 to 25 steps (and remember that we are talking about strides) he turned around and saw Truly and Baker running up the steps into the building. 

How much time after the last shot before Baker reached the steps? Well, he dropped his motorcycle, and he took off running. Some say he reached the steps just 10 seconds after the last shot. And if it wasn't that, it was definitely less than 20 seconds. And Lovelady had already left by then and saw it from a distance of 20 to 25 strides. 

So, there is NO CHANCE that Lovelady hung around in front for 3 minutes after the assassination. None whatsoever. What can be made of the 3 minute remark? Nothing. It needs to just be ignored. It is trumped by all the other evidence, all the other pieces, the way they fit together into a cohesive, coherent timeline.  

Lovelady said he spent 30 minutes on the 1st floor. Truly had assigned him and Shelley to guard the freight elevator. And then he took the police on a tour of the 6th floor. There is no reason to think he went out front again until it was time to depart for City Hall, which would have been about 1:45. 

That means that this guy, can't be Lovelady because Lovelady was never on the east side where this guy is, and Lovelady was gone from the front by the time this film was taken. 

And for the same reason, Lovelady can't be this guy.

And Lovelady can't be this guy because Lovelady denied ever seeing Oswald again after they broke for lunch; he said he didn't. Plus, at no time in his life did he ever claim to see Oswald at the PD or have had Oswald pass him in the squad room. He never claimed it; nor did his wife. 

Besides, that guy is too muscular to be Lovelady anyway. And this guy below it too old and wimpy to be Lovelady. Question: does this look like a 26 year old man to you? I said: 26.

You know, you are really bad. You are a mean, rotten, nasty person. And that's despite your Christianity. So, it's done you no good. You should have stuck with the Cherokee spirituality. What did you need to adopt the white man's religion for? He rapes and pillages and plunders and slaughters your people, and you respond by adopting his religion? Jesus H. Christ.