Thursday, October 12, 2017

Amy Joyce:

The lies didn't stop at framing Ruby. They also tried to show that Ruby 
had prior intent in order to ensure that he got the death penalty.  Dean 
and Archer were proven liars during cross at Jack Ruby's trial.  Both 
testified that they were upstairs and on the 5th when Ruby told Agent Hall 
that he'd been planning the murder since Friday after seeing Oswald smirk. 
Hall admitted that wasn't the case.  Dean was also busted because he was 
actually down in the garage being interviewed by reporters and couldn't 
have been there at the time. 

Lowery lied when first saying he saw Ruby seconds before the shooting. 
Realizing that this made it look like he had done nothing to prevent the 
murder, he changed his story and said he didn't see Ruby before the 
incident at all. 

Bieberdorf lied several times and never did get his story straight! Even 
during his WC testimony when trying to correct the lies from his police 
interview, he lied some more. There is no way 6 other adults (not 
including Oswald on the gurney) could have even fit inside the ambulance, 
and they weren't in the positions he claimed. 

Graves and Leavelle also claimed that six people - Wolf, Hardin, and Bieb, 
along with three detectives, were inside the ambulance, but at least they 
didn't forget that there was only one seat available in the second row. 

Bieberdorf first reported he rode in the rear, but then he told the WC 
that he was sitting in the passenger side backseat and that Jim Leavelle 
rode next to him. Only two detectives (one of them Leavelle) got into the 
rear next to Oswald's gurney (a tight fit if possible at all), and only 
one unidentifiable person entered the side door. That's five. 

Bieb may not have even rode in the ambulance at all! The man entering the 
side door was wearing a hat and Bieb was not wearing one.  So were the 
only two men that got into the rear.  In the films of the ambulance 
arriving at Parkland, young Bieberdorf is nowhere to be seen but Dhority, 
Graves, and Leavelle were.  This would account for his confusion about the 
seating arrangements and also the lack of room. 


Ralph Cinque:

That was excellent, Amy. You are really honing in. And I agree that the Bieb was a very suspicious character. Let's consider: he said that when he first saw Oswald, he thought he was dead. He said that he could detect no heartbeat or respiration. Then, he said he performed "sternal massage". I presume he meant sternal compressions. But, if he detected no respiration, why didn't he also perform mouth to mouth resuscitation? It was invented in 1956, so I presume he knew about it in 1963, him being a doctor and all. Then, it became part of his story that he continued doing  "sternal massage" on Oswald in the ambulance, which no one else reported, and that he used an oxygen cup resuscitator on Oswald, by which I presume he meant a bag valve mask. But, where did it come from? Was it just sitting in the back seat? Neither Hardin or Wolfe had any medical training, so presumably it wasn't there for their use. So, why would it be there at all?  And if it was there for their use, why didn't they take it with them into the jail office? If the victim isn't breathing, isn't that something that you HAVE to deal with on the spot? Detective Dhority said that HE was taking Oswald's pulse the entire time that they were traveling to the hospital, so how could he not mention the things that the Bieb was doing? And since the Bieb was the doctor, why didn't he just let the Bieb tend to Oswald and not intrude? But, Dhority didn't even mention the Beib being there in the ambulance, never mind doing anything. Here, see for yourself:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/dhority1.htm  

And this is all that the driver Michael Hardin said about the Bieb:

Mr. HUBERT. Do you know who they were?
Mr. HARDIN. I believe they were police officers and I believe one of them was Leavelle.
Mr. HUBERT. Yes.
Mr. HARDIN. I am not sure. And then there was a doctor riding in the seat in the back, there, and then my assistant was in the front seat.
Mr. HUBERT. How did you know the man was a doctor?
Mr. HARDIN. I have seen him at Parkland Hospital several times and city hall, too, and recognized him as being a doctor. 


Don't you think that Hardin would have noticed it if the Bieb was performing life-saving emergency procedures on Oswald in his ambulance? But, he didn't say a word about it. Here's his testimony:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hardin.htm

Then, the Bieb claimed that just 5 blocks from the hospital, Oswald started thrashing around, resisting his efforts, and that he tried to remove the resuscitator from his mouth. I DO NOT BELIEVE IT. If you consider the condition that Oswald was in when he reached the hospital, according to the Parkland doctors, which is that he had no blood pressure whatsoever, and only the most feeble and infrequent heartbeat, and they immediately gave him a blood transfusion that amounted to total body replacement of blood- replacing every bit of blood in his body. This was an ambulance traveling at ambulance speed, so how long did it take them to go 5 blocks? And how long did it take them to get him inside? So, how is it possible that just two minutes before that, Oswald was thrashing around and trying to remove something from his mouth? He was practically dead, for Christ's sake. In fact, it may be accurate to say that he was dead, that the scanty signs of life remaining in him were absolutely hopeless and futile. I've said before that JFK was definitely dead before Parkland doctors started working on him- as much so as a chicken with its head cut off. The same may be true of Oswald. I don't believe for one second that he was thrashing and trying to remove something from his mouth in the ambulance. 

We have no sighting of the Bieb at the hospital. There is no image of him. There is no reference to anyone seeing him. And how could the Bieb claim that Leavelle rode with him in the middle seat when he would have known that no one could have rode with him in that seat since Oswald was taking up half of it?

It was in his FBI statement that the Bieb claimed to treat Oswald with emergency methods in the ambulance. He made no mention of it in his testimony to the Warren Commission, nor did anyone else mention it. 

 

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