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On 6/1/2016 2:48 PM,
Nothing I say can change your mind, I'm sure, but just for the
record, among other things, the Walker note is in Oswald's handwriting.
https://www.amazon.com/
Paul Gregory's father testified, "I gave him a short test by simply
opening a book at random and asking him to read a paragraph or two and
then translate it. He did it very well. So I gave him a letter
addressed to whom it may concern that in my opinion he was capable of
being an interpreter or a translator."
Learning to read and translate a language is easier than learning
to speak and write it. Translating a couple of paragraphs in a book
doesn't show a proficiency in Russian by any means. Probably Gregory was
trying to help him out rather than seriously test him.
Gregory didn't indicate that Oswald's ability "impressed the hell
out of him." He was asked, "How long would you estimate it would
normally take for a person of average intelligence to learn to speak and
write Russian as fluently as Oswald did?"
QUOTE:
Mr. GREGORY - If he lived in this country or in that country? That would
make a lot of difference.
[....] If he lived in the country--
Representative FORD - In the Soviet Union?
Mr. GREGORY - In the Soviet Union, he probably could do it in 2 or 3 years.
UNQUOTE
Which is about how long Oswald lived in the Soviet Union (just over 2
1/2 years).
QUOTE:
Representative FORD - Did Oswald tell you when he first visited you that
he had learned to speak Russian, where?
Mr. GREGORY - In the Soviet Union.
Representative FORD - He never gave you any indication he had learned or
studied prior to going to the Soviet Union?
Mr. GREGORY - No, sir.
UNQUOTE
Which is the impression the people who met him got when he first arrived
in the USSR -- that he could speak very little Russian at that time.
Jean
Nothing I say can change your mind, I'm sure, but just for the
record, among other things, the Walker note is in Oswald's handwriting.
Owald's Russian language lessons were after work, Ralph. Read about it here:
https://www.amazon.com/
Paul Gregory's father testified, "I gave him a short test by simply
opening a book at random and asking him to read a paragraph or two and
then translate it. He did it very well. So I gave him a letter
addressed to whom it may concern that in my opinion he was capable of
being an interpreter or a translator."
Learning to read and translate a language is easier than learning
to speak and write it. Translating a couple of paragraphs in a book
doesn't show a proficiency in Russian by any means. Probably Gregory was
trying to help him out rather than seriously test him.
Gregory didn't indicate that Oswald's ability "impressed the hell
out of him." He was asked, "How long would you estimate it would
normally take for a person of average intelligence to learn to speak and
write Russian as fluently as Oswald did?"
QUOTE:
Mr. GREGORY - If he lived in this country or in that country? That would
make a lot of difference.
[....] If he lived in the country--
Representative FORD - In the Soviet Union?
Mr. GREGORY - In the Soviet Union, he probably could do it in 2 or 3 years.
UNQUOTE
Which is about how long Oswald lived in the Soviet Union (just over 2
1/2 years).
QUOTE:
Representative FORD - Did Oswald tell you when he first visited you that
he had learned to speak Russian, where?
Mr. GREGORY - In the Soviet Union.
Representative FORD - He never gave you any indication he had learned or
studied prior to going to the Soviet Union?
Mr. GREGORY - No, sir.
UNQUOTE
Which is the impression the people who met him got when he first arrived
in the USSR -- that he could speak very little Russian at that time.
Jean
Ralph Cinque:
After work??? You think Oswald hung around the radio factory after work to sit through Russian lessons? You believe that, huh? And how often do you claim he did that? Every day? Five days a week? It would be one thing if they gave him time off work to study Russian, but when you put it that way, it makes it even less credible. You may think he was a serious young man, but he wasn't that serious. He was very interested in having fun with his friends and in chasing girls. That's what he primarily did on his off-hours.
Peter Wronski has one of the best sites on the net concerning Oswald's time in Russia. He says nothing about Oswald staying put after work hours to study Russian. He even posts an essay that Oswald wrote about his time at the factory, and Oswald said nothing about it either.
http://www.russianbooks.org/oswald/minsk4.htm
What I want to know is: How come Oswald was so social in Russia but so anti-social at the TSBD?
But, there you go again making glib statements, assuming that you are holding a card that you are not holding. The Walker Note was in Oswald's handwriting? Are you sure? Let me guess: you believe it because government experts tell you so?
This is by Jeremy Bojczuk:
Was the Walker Note Authentic?
The note was undated, and did not mention General Walker or any reason why Oswald might find himself under arrest. There are several reasons to doubt the authenticity of the handwritten note:
Ruth Paine’s home had been searched thoroughly on the afternoon of the assassination, and again the following day, when Paine claimed to have seen officers specifically looking for loose papers within books (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.87). The inventory of items discovered is 49 pages long, but does not mention the note (FBI HQ Oswald File, 105–82555–24).
Although the FBI’s handwriting expert considered that the note was in Oswald’s handwriting (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.7, p.437), only one of the three experts who were consulted by the House Select Committee on Assassinations considered the note to be authentic (HSCA Report, appendix vol.8, pp.232–246).
The Bureau’s fingerprint expert found seven sets of fingerprints on the note. None of them belonged to either Lee or Marina Oswald (FBI HQ JFK Assassination File, 62–109060–36).
And before going to the Soviet Union, Oswald passed (barely) a Russian proficiency test given to him by the Marines. The test was completely in Russian, meaning that even the questions were asked in Russian. Oswald got more answers right than wrong.
And regarding what Mr. Gregory said about learning Russian in 2 or 3 years if you were over there, that's with concerted study. If you just went over there and didn't study all you would do in 2 or 3 years is pick up a few words and phrases. You wouldn't really learn the language at all. OSWALD NEVER TOOK A SINGLE COURSE IN RUSSIAN while he was over there. They could have sent him to school, you know? They could have put him into a formal program for learning Russian- as a second language. They have them all over the world for English. I have a good friend who teaches such a program in Japan to Japanese speakers. It's organized. It's systematic. It's thorough. It involves the use of tested and proven methods. Nothing comparable to that was provided to Oswald in Russia, yet he spoke, wrote, and even read the Russian classics in Russian.
Jean, you are not even remotely objective. Bias is thy middle name.
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