This is a conversation between Jack Ruby and his lawyer, Melvin Belli that is based on real statements that Ruby made, and real statements that Belli made, and the assumption that Ruby made the same statements to his attorney that he made elsewhere, which is a very reasonable assumption because Jack Ruby was very transparent. The scenario that Dallas Police killed Oswald and framed Ruby by having someone else there who looked like him, and also did things to get Ruby there to the garage too- it was impossible for their minds to go there. It would have been like expecting first-graders to grasp Calculus. And ultimately, it came down to their, the lawyers', belief in America, that badness only goes so far in America because this is America. It's not Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, or Red China.
Melvin Belli: Jack, I want you to tell me exactly what happened. What do you remember?
Jack Ruby: Well, I went down to the basement just to see what was going on, and suddenly, the cops jumped me. They grabbed me and pushed me down. I had no idea why. And that's why I complained. I said, "What are you doing? I'm Jack Ruby. You know me. I'm not some criminal."
Melvin Belli: So, as far as you knew, you hadn't done anything.
Jack Ruby: That's right. Then, they hustled me up to the 5th floor. And that's when they told me that I shot Oswald. I was shocked. I was flabbergasted. I had no memory of doing it. I never had any thought of doing it. So, I was stunned. It was like I was living in a bad dream. I couldn't believe it.
Melvin Belli: Do you remember hearing a shot?
Jack Ruby: No, I do not.
Melvin Belli: Do you remember reaching for your gun?
Jack Ruby: No, I do not.
Melvin Belli: Do you remember seeing Oswald?
Jack Ruby: Yes, but only briefly. It all happened so fast.
Melvin Belli: What do you remember thinking when you saw Oswald?
Jack Ruby: Just that he looked smug. Or I should say arrogant.
Melvin Belli: What did you feel emotionally when you saw him?
Jack Ruby: Well, I didn't feel like shooting him. I was just glad he was in custody, and I hoped that he got the punishment he deserved.
Melvin Belli: Which was what?
Jack Ruby: I don't know. I didn't define it in my mind. If you are wondering if I imagined him being electrocuted or swinging from a rope, the answer is no.
Melvin Belli: So, you're saying that you never had any violent thoughts about Oswald, not then, and not any time that weekend.
Jack Ruby: That's right. I never did.
Melvin Belli; And no one ordered you to shoot Oswald?
Jack Ruby: Of course not.
Two hours later when Belli was conferring with Ruby's other attorneys.
Melvin Belli: He denies any memory, thought, or intention of shooting Oswald. His admission of having done it is based entirely on what he was told. What do you make of it?
Joe Tonahill: He isn't right in his head. Look: we know he did it. He was there. He was arrested. There are the films and photos of him doing it. So, there's no doubt that he did it. Are we on the same page about that?
Melvin Belli: Reluctantly, I have to say yes. The images don't lie. That's him in the fedora hat.
Elmer Getz: Of course it is. I can imagine the police doing a lot of bad things, but they didn't frame Jack Ruby. It is what it is. We can see it with our own eyes. However, we shouldn't assume that Jack is lying. His mind is playing tricks on him.
Melvin Belli: So, you think he did it without knowing it, in a total mental vacuum?
Elmer Getz: I think he had a mental break. I think he lost it.
Melvin Belli: Well, I'll talk to our medical people and see if they can come up with a medical term for it. All right, so our assumption is that Jack is telling the truth, that he doesn't remember anything, and he must have a medical condition that caused him to shoot Oswald without any presence of mind.
Joe Tonahill: I'm afraid that so. I don't see any other argument we can make to defend him.
Melvin Belli: All right, so he shot Oswald without his conscious mind being present. We can plead him not guilty on that basis.
Joe Tonahill: You mean, on the basis of being of unsound mind.
Melvin Belli: Yes, that's right. He did it, but lacking mental capacity. Therefore, he is not guilty on the basis of mental defect.
Elmer Getz: I can tell you right now: he is not going to like it.
Melvin Belli: Well, we have to do what is in his best interest. He was there, and very reliable witnesses, the most reliable: police officers and detectives, saw him do it. And the film and photographic evidence prove it, unequivocally. Who else but him could have done it?
Joe Tonahill: Nobody else.
Melvin Belli: So, there is no basis on which to deny that he did it. His state of mind at the time is the only thing we have to work with.
Elmer Getz: We just have to explain to him that this is the only defense available to us, that we have no other options.
Melvin Belli: No, we don't. So, I'll get started with our medial people to come up with a diagnosis. Hopefully, they can come up with an impressive term that we can use, one that will engender sympathy for him. Elmer, will you talk to Jack and see if you can get him to accept what we're doing? You know him better than I do.
Elmer Getz: I can do that.
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RC: The truth of what happened was beyond the imagination of these lawyers. They couldn't even consider the truth for a moment, as a speculation, and then rapidly dismiss it as preposterous. Even getting that far was impossible. It was really a matter of complete, total, mental blindness. They were completely obtuse as to what really happened, and they couldn't get a glimpse of it, not even for a nanosecond. And it's not much different today. Most people, including most JFK researchers, including those who reject the official story, are 100% sure that it was Ruby in the garage shooting Oswald, because he admitted doing it; there are the images of him doing it; and there is no other person who possibly could have done it. All those beliefs are false. Jack Ruby was innocent, and his framing is the most frighteningly successful scam of all time. And that is as certain as the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was innocent. Ultimately, the same people who killed Kennedy killed Oswald, and it was their plan from the beginning. Oswald was NEVER going to go to trial. It's very likely that Lyndon Johnson appealed directly and personally to his friends at the DPD to "end the national nightmare."
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