This is a video interview of Professor James Norwood, who is a senior member of the Oswald Innocence Campaign. It is featured on the website of the University of Minnesota.
James has been teaching college courses on the JFK assassination for many years. He is an advocate of Oswald in the doorway.
http://www.youtube.com/user/minnesotabroadcaster#play/uploads/2/
He also did an audio interview, which you can find here.
http://www.accessminnesotaonline.com/2013/10/09/examining-jfks-assassination/
Friday, November 1, 2013
Robin Unger put the Martin film and the Hughes film side by side, and he's claiming that the Lovelady figures in each of them were the same.
The thing is, Robin, I trust you completely. I just don't trust the devil inside you. When we look at these two guys close-up:
They are not the same guy, Robin. They are far from being the same guy. And neither one of them was Billy Lovelady. Billy Lovelady had left for the railroad tracks by the time these films were taken. He told us so himself. Shelley, who went with him, also told us so. And Frazier, who did not go with them, also said that they left. That was before the first policeman (Marrion Baker) even reached the steps, never mind before any police checkpoint was set up.
And when Lovelady and Shelley returned, they did NOT return to the front. The re-entered through the back door, and then they were inside for a very long time- until it was time to depart for City Hall with police. So, there is no chance that Billy Lovelady was milling around out in front when these films were taken.
So, these are just two phony sightings of Lovelady wearing a plaid shirt, where neither one was Lovelady, nor were they each other.
The thing is, Robin, I trust you completely. I just don't trust the devil inside you. When we look at these two guys close-up:
They are not the same guy, Robin. They are far from being the same guy. And neither one of them was Billy Lovelady. Billy Lovelady had left for the railroad tracks by the time these films were taken. He told us so himself. Shelley, who went with him, also told us so. And Frazier, who did not go with them, also said that they left. That was before the first policeman (Marrion Baker) even reached the steps, never mind before any police checkpoint was set up.
And when Lovelady and Shelley returned, they did NOT return to the front. The re-entered through the back door, and then they were inside for a very long time- until it was time to depart for City Hall with police. So, there is no chance that Billy Lovelady was milling around out in front when these films were taken.
So, these are just two phony sightings of Lovelady wearing a plaid shirt, where neither one was Lovelady, nor were they each other.
Let's talk about the curtain rod story:
Mr Rankin: Do you know whether your husband carried any package with him when he left the house on November 22nd?
Mrs Oswald: I think that he had a package with his lunch. But a small package.
According to Captain Will Fritz, who interrogated Oswald, “He said he didn’t have any kind of a package but his lunch. He said he had his lunch and that is all he had …. He said, ‘No. I didn’t carry anything but my lunch’” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, pp.218.
Harry Holmes, a postal inspector and FBI informer, also questioned Oswald about the package he had been carrying:
Asked him if he brought a sack out when he got in the car with this young fellow that hauled him and he said, “Yes.”
“What was in the sack?”
“Well, my lunch.”
“What size sack did you have?”
He said, “Oh, I don’t know what size sack. You don’t always get a sack that fits your sandwiches. It might be a big sack.”
“Was it a long sack?”
“Well, it could have been.”
“What did you do with it?”
“Carried it in my lap.”
“You didn’t put it over in the back seat?”
“No.” He said he wouldn’t have done that.
“Well, someone said the fellow that hauled you said you had a long package which you said was curtain rods you were taking to somebody at work and you laid it over on the back seat.”
He said, “Well, they was just mistaken. That must have been some other time he picked me up.”
Oswald denied the curtain rod story vociferously. Nobody at the TSBD reported seeing Oswald come in with any such package. There was no support of the story from Marina Oswald or Ruth Paine. To say that there is reasonable doubt about the veracity of the curtain rod story is a gross understatement. Oswald was not-guilty of bringing anything remotely like curtain rods, let alone a rifle, into the TSBD on 11/22/63. He carried his lunch and nothing else.
I am calling on OIC senior member Larry Rivera to cover this in his speech on Buell Frazier at the OIC JFK Truth Conference.
Update from Dennis Cimino:
by the way the term; "Vmca" is a pilot
term, or 'V SPEED' number each aircraft has, and it's refered to as THE DESIGN
MANEUVERING SPEED.
in layperson's terms, it is a speed whereupon FULL STOP TO STOP CONTROL
DEFLECTION OF BOTH THE AILERONS AND RUDDERS CAN OCCUR INSTANTANEOUSLY WITHOUT
INCURRING STRUCTURAL DEFORMATION OR BREAKUP OF THE AIRCRAFT.
at 700 feet AGL, that speed is about 300 knots in most heavy airplanes,
give or take ten knots in most of them.
in most heavy jets, the STICK SHAKER and OVERSPEED WARNING will engage if
you try to exceed this speed. it is a warning but it is a fierce and forceful
warning.
you might ignore the blaring OVERSPEED!!!! OVERSPEED!!!! OVERSPEED!!!!
annunciator warning, but you cannot ignore the fucking stick shaker or the
'klacker' as it is called.
you just cannot.
funny thing on Sept 11th., in the FLT 77 FDR records, neither the STICK
SHAKER or the OVERSPEED WARNINGS ever came on or were recorded in the
data.
that's awfully amazing for an airplane that flew at 465 knots into a
building, where at around 280 or so, the stick shaker and overspeed warnings
both would have been FULLY MANIFESTED AND ACTIVATED AND MAKING THE HIJACKER'S
CONTROL OF THE PLANE RATHER DIFFICULT.
most people don't know about 'V SPEEDS' or this particular one called 'Vmc'
or 'Vmca' or 'Va'
but any experienced pilot knows they exist. and what happens when you get
on the OTHER SIDE of them....not to mention risk of breaking the aircraft due to
excessive G force loads on it's control surfaces and wing structures.
regards,
p.s. on the CVR recording on UA 93, there was no evidence of either STICK
SHAKER or OVERSPEED WARNING on that fakery the FBI played for the alleged
VICTIMS RELATIVES. and that is very very very telling of the magnitude of the
FRAUD here...and the FBI lack of awareness how the NTSB cornholed them.
and didn't apprise them that their fake recording should have included the
klacker and overspeed sounds in it. :) but did NOT.
No, Backes; it was me ridiculing Charles Bulingame. It's the official story of 9/11 that ridicules him, and I am extremely resentful about it. This guy was tough. He was specfically described as tough. It's the word people used:
THE TOUGH PILOT
The first thing to recognize when evaluating the official Flight 77 story is that the plane's pilot was a former military man, and a genuinely tough guy. Captain Charles "Chic" Burlingame had graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1971. He served eight years on active duty as a fighter pilot, and served several tours at the Navy's elite Top Gun school. He then spent 17 years in the Naval Reserve before retiring from the military in 1996. [1] During his military career, he had tours in Vietnam and the 1991 Gulf War. [2] His sister Debra Burlingame described him as "a guy that's been through SERE [Survival Evasion Resistance Escape] school in the Navy and had very tough psychological and physical preparation." She said, "If there was any chance of saving [Flight 77], this was the kind of guy who would have been able to do that." [3] Admiral Timothy Keating was a good friend of Burlingame's, having been a classmate of his in the Navy and attended flight school with him. He told CNN: "I was in a plebe summer boxing match with Chic, and he pounded me. ... Chic was really tough." [4] Even up to his death Burlingame enjoyed boating, in-line skating, and weightlifting, and was "in great shape," according to his friend Steve Brooks. [5]
There is NO WAY Charles Burlingame turned that plane over to those terrorists. No fucking way! Do you hear me? That is the biggest crock of bull shit I have ever heard in my life.
And you know who agrees with me? Chic's brother Mark:
“I don’t know what happened in that cockpit, but I’m sure that they would have had to incapacitate him or kill him because he would have done anything to prevent the kind of tragedy that befell that airplane.” Mark Burlingame
And I'm sure the same could be said for every other pilot who flew a 9/11 plane. Pilots don't do that. Ever.
Charles Burlingame was specifically trained in anti-terrorist techniques, including fighting techniques, which he taught at the Pentagon.
Furthermore, there is evidence that the cockpit door wasn't even breached. But, even if it was, the notion that terrorists took out Charles Burlingame and his co-pilot David Charlebois before they could even activate a distress signal is preposterous.
THE TOUGH PILOT
The first thing to recognize when evaluating the official Flight 77 story is that the plane's pilot was a former military man, and a genuinely tough guy. Captain Charles "Chic" Burlingame had graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1971. He served eight years on active duty as a fighter pilot, and served several tours at the Navy's elite Top Gun school. He then spent 17 years in the Naval Reserve before retiring from the military in 1996. [1] During his military career, he had tours in Vietnam and the 1991 Gulf War. [2] His sister Debra Burlingame described him as "a guy that's been through SERE [Survival Evasion Resistance Escape] school in the Navy and had very tough psychological and physical preparation." She said, "If there was any chance of saving [Flight 77], this was the kind of guy who would have been able to do that." [3] Admiral Timothy Keating was a good friend of Burlingame's, having been a classmate of his in the Navy and attended flight school with him. He told CNN: "I was in a plebe summer boxing match with Chic, and he pounded me. ... Chic was really tough." [4] Even up to his death Burlingame enjoyed boating, in-line skating, and weightlifting, and was "in great shape," according to his friend Steve Brooks. [5]
There is NO WAY Charles Burlingame turned that plane over to those terrorists. No fucking way! Do you hear me? That is the biggest crock of bull shit I have ever heard in my life.
And you know who agrees with me? Chic's brother Mark:
“I don’t know what happened in that cockpit, but I’m sure that they would have had to incapacitate him or kill him because he would have done anything to prevent the kind of tragedy that befell that airplane.” Mark Burlingame
And I'm sure the same could be said for every other pilot who flew a 9/11 plane. Pilots don't do that. Ever.
Charles Burlingame was specifically trained in anti-terrorist techniques, including fighting techniques, which he taught at the Pentagon.
Furthermore, there is evidence that the cockpit door wasn't even breached. But, even if it was, the notion that terrorists took out Charles Burlingame and his co-pilot David Charlebois before they could even activate a distress signal is preposterous.
It's important to realize that these two images are the exact same image, it's just that the color got washed out on the right. Somebody did it deliberately. It's like they poured bleach on it.
So, why'd they do it? It's because they realized that that flashy geometric pattern on Lovelady on the left wasn't right. It didn't match the guy from the Martin film. But look what we get when we compare Washed Out Lovelady with Gorilla Lovelady.
Besides all the other differences pointed out, notice that Washed Out Lovelady on the left has got a long vertical neck while Gorilla Lovelady on the right has got a short horizontal neck. He actually has a condition called Forward Neck Syndrome. There is no way those two men can be the same man, and it is very foolish to say so. They are vastly different from each other.
So, why'd they do it? It's because they realized that that flashy geometric pattern on Lovelady on the left wasn't right. It didn't match the guy from the Martin film. But look what we get when we compare Washed Out Lovelady with Gorilla Lovelady.
Besides all the other differences pointed out, notice that Washed Out Lovelady on the left has got a long vertical neck while Gorilla Lovelady on the right has got a short horizontal neck. He actually has a condition called Forward Neck Syndrome. There is no way those two men can be the same man, and it is very foolish to say so. They are vastly different from each other.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your Captain speaking: Captain Charles Burlingame. I want everyone to remain calm. The most important thing now is that we not do anything rash. I am turning the controls of the plane over to these men, since they have box-cutters, and they look pretty sharp. I have no doubt that they can safely fly the plane, and I'm sure they'll find a suitable airport somewhere, and wherever they land, help will be waiting on the ground- and I mean people who are on our side. Trust me on this.
So, put up no resistance. Remain calm. These men are armed and dangerous, and I don't want anyone to get hurt. We'll let them fly the plane, which I'm sure they can do. Besides, it will keep them busy and occupied and away from us. The ride might be a little choppy and the landing a little bumpy, but that's the worst that can happen. We'll get through this as long as we think on our feet and nobody panics. Now, I want you to go with me to the back of the plane, as we have been ordered to do. There, we can hold hands and sing "Kumbayah" until we are safely on the ground. This will be over soon. Trust me; the end is near.
So, put up no resistance. Remain calm. These men are armed and dangerous, and I don't want anyone to get hurt. We'll let them fly the plane, which I'm sure they can do. Besides, it will keep them busy and occupied and away from us. The ride might be a little choppy and the landing a little bumpy, but that's the worst that can happen. We'll get through this as long as we think on our feet and nobody panics. Now, I want you to go with me to the back of the plane, as we have been ordered to do. There, we can hold hands and sing "Kumbayah" until we are safely on the ground. This will be over soon. Trust me; the end is near.
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