Wednesday, December 28, 2016

Michael Hardin was the 23 year old ambulance driver for Oswald, and he was interviewed by WC attorney Leon Hubert. This is from it: 

Mr. HARDIN. And we got him in the car, or ambulance, they drove the armored truck on out of the basement on the Commerce Street side, and we went out behind the truck. Of course, the truck was there when we left, and then went east on Commerce to the expressway, and north on the expressway to Elm and then west on Elm to Harwood and north on Harwood to Harry Hines, and north on Hines to Parkland. 



Mr. HUBERT. And what happened when you got to Parkland?

Now, I am going to indulge in some script-writing where I imagine how Mr. Hubert might have responded differently if he was more like me: 

Mr. HARDIN. And we got him in the car, or ambulance, they drove the armored truck on out of the basement on the Commerce Street side, and we went out behind the truck. Of course, the truck was there when we left, and then went east on Commerce to the expressway, and north on the expressway to Elm and then west on Elm to Harwood and north on Harwood to Harry Hines, and north on Hines to Parkland. 

Mr. HUBERT. Wait a second. Weren't you on Harwood? Dallas City Hall is on Harwood The street address is Harwood. I know that. Do you want me look it up for you? I can give you the exact address.

Mr. HARDIN. That isn't necessary.

Mr. HUBERT. Hush; it's no trouble at all. Wait. Hold on. OK, here it is: 106 S. Harwood. So, you were there on Harwood, and all you had to do was go north on Harwood. So, why didn't you do that? You had a dying man in the car.

Mr. HARDIN: Well, Commerce is a one-way street, and....

Mr. HUBERT. And YOU are an ambulance driver who is legally sanctioned to disregard traffic laws in an emergency, are you not?

Mr. HARDIN. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT: And this was an emergency, was it not? 

Mr. HARDIN. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT: Well?

Mr. HARDIN. Well, one of the police officers directed me to go the way I did.

Mr. HUBERT: Which police officer?

Mr. HARDIN. I don't remember which one. I couldn't tell you that. 

Mr. HUBERT: Well, we are definitely going to look into that and find out, but let's stay on this. Did you, or did you not realize that Oswald was in dire straits and that every second counted?

Mr. HARDIN. Well, I really didn't know how badly he was hurt. There was no visible blood. 

Mr. HUBERT. But, you knew where he was shot, right? In the upper abdomen through the rib cage from left to right? You are aware that there are many vital organs and major blood vessels in that area?

Mr. HARDIN. Yes, but.. 

Mr. HUBERT. And you knew he was unconscious. That's a bad sign, isn't it? 

Mr. HARDIN. Again, I was just doing what I was told. 

Mr. HUBERT: What if it was your brother bleeding and dying in that ambulance? Would you have obeyed a policeman then if he told you to take a long cut to the hospital? 

Mr. HARDIN: I would rather not answer that.

Mr. HUBERT. I bet you wouldn't. Which ramp did you use to enter?

Mr. HARDIN: The Main Street ramp. 

Mr. HUBERT: Why didn't you use it to go out? It was north, and you were going north. Right?

Mr. HARDIN: Well, we were facing the other way. 

Mr. HUBERT: Would it have been so hard to back up and turn around?

Mr. HARDIN: Not particularly. 

Mr. HUBERT: Then why didn't you do it?

Mr. HARDIN: Well, they were moving the armored truck out of the way on Commerce Street, and it seemed like they wanted us to go out that way.

Mr. HUBERT: And then you turned left on Commerce and went quite a distance in a direction that was 120 degrees away from the direction that you needed to go. Isn't that true, Mr. Hardin?



Mr. HARDIN: I guess.

Mr. HUBERT: You guess? Are you being sarcastic, Mr. Hardin? A man died here. 

Mr. HARDIN: I know. I mean no; I'm not being sarcastic. Honestly, I just did what the police told me to do. It's pretty hard to say no to the police.

silent pause

Mr. HUBERT: Alright, now tell me everything that happened on that ride, everything that was said and done, whether Oswald reacted in any way, and whether he showed any signs of responsiveness. Now start.  

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