Thursday, September 26, 2013

It's amazing that bpete says that our claim that Billy Lovelady stated that he wore a red and white striped shirt was a lie because he didn't sign an affidavit. How often is a signed affidavit involved in oral testimony?

Furthermore, this was a statement about what clothes he wore- not if he had killed somebody. Lovelady wasn't a suspect. He wasn't even a "person of interest" from any criminal standpoint. And the statement didn't begin to impugn anyone else either. Why would a statement about which clothes he wore to work that day require an affidavit?

The FBI stated that he stated it. What reason is there to doubt it? And how could they think it unless he said it? Would they just assume that whichever clothes he wore to the photo shoot must have been the same clothes he wore on 11/22? And even if they thought that, wouldn't they ask him about it? They wouldn't just presume it and put it down on paper and send it to the WC without asking him, would they?

And, why would bpete say we were "lying" when what we said was based on this:

"He stated he was wearing a red and white striped shirt and blue jeans."- FBI.

How does that make us liars?

bpete cites CE 900, but CE 900 was just the Altgens photo and a reenactment photo:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/ce900.jpg

bpete also states that it says that Billy Lovelady identified himself in the picture, but based on what? In his WC testimony, Lovelady just drew an arrow to himself which no one ever located until we did, and it's not pointing to Doorman. He never made any reference to being Doorman. The one and only arrow pointing to Doorman was drawn by Buell Frazier. Then bpete quotes: "Standing alongside him were Buell Wesley Frazier 317 and William Shelley 318 who also identified Lovelady."

Well, if they were standing "alongside" him, why don't we see them in the Altgens photo?

From the beginning, the Warren Commission was out to convict Oswald. Is that not a fair statement? They didn't look at anyone else. They didn't consider any other theories of the crime. They didn't even hire their own investigators, but rather, relied on the FBI. And, the OIC is not alone in saying the WC was a whitewash. Didn't Harold Weisberg write two books with that word in the title?

Joseph Backes thinks that they made up a bus ride, a cab ride, and a trek to the tracks. He thinks they made up whole pages of testimony. He thinks that all of the following testimony was totally concocted out of thin air by the Warren Commission:

Mr. LOVELADY - .... the crowd had started towards the railroad tracks back, you know, behind our building there and we run towards that little, old island and kind of down there in that little street. We went as far as the first tracks and everybody was hollering and crying and policemen started running out that way and we said we better get back into the building, so we went back into the west entrance on the back dock had that low ramp and went into the back dock back inside the building.
Mr. BALL - First of all, let's get you to tell us whom you left the steps with.
Mr. LOVELADY - Mr. Shelley.
Mr. BALL - Shelley and you went down how far?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I would say a good 75, between 75 to 100 yards to the first tracks. See how those tracks goes---
Mr. BALL - You went down the dead end on Elm?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - And down to the first tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Did you see anything there?
Mr. LOVELADY - No, sir; well, just people running.
Mr. BALL - That's all?
Mr. LOVELADY - And hollerin.
Mr. BALL - How did you happen to go down there?
Mr. LOVELADY - I don't know, because everybody was running from that way and naturally, I guess---
Mr. BALL - They were running from that way or toward that way?
Mr. LOVELADY - Toward that way; everybody thought it was coming from that direction.
Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Then you came back. How long did you stay around the railroad tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, just a minute, maybe minute and a half.
Mr. BALL - Then what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY - Came back right through that part where Mr. Campbell, Mr. Truly, and Mr. Shelley park their cars and I came back inside the building.
Mr. BALL - And enter from the rear?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, sir; sure did.
Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time.
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, it's---I say approximately; I can't say because I don't have a watch; it could.
Mr. BALL - Had people started to run?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps.
Mr. BALL - Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Did you run or walk?
Mr. LOVELADY - Medium trotting or fast walk.
Mr. BALL - A fast walk?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - How did you happen to turn around and see Truly and the policeman go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Somebody hollered and I looked.
Mr. BALL - You turned around and looked?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - After you ran to the railroad tracks you came back and went in the back door of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Did you go in through the docks, the wide open door or did you go in the ordinary Small door?
Mr. LOVELADY - You know where we park our trucks--that door; we have a little door.
Mr. BALL - That is where you went in, that little door?
Mr. LOVELADY - That's right.
Mr. BALL - That would be the north end of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - That would be the west end, wouldn't it?
Mr. BALL - Is it the one right off Houston Street?
Mr. LOVELADY - No; you are thinking about another dock.
Mr. BALL - I am?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes; we have two.
Mr. BALL - Do you have a dock on the west side and one on the north side of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - East, and well, it would be east and west but you enter it from the south side.
Mr. BALL - Now, the south side---
Mr. LOVELADY - Elm Street is that little dead-end street.
Mr. BALL - That's south.
Mr. LOVELADY - I drive my truck here (indicating) but we came in from this direction; that would have to be west.
Mr. BALL - You came into the building from the west side?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Where did you go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Through that, those raised-up doors.
Mr. BALL - Through the raised-up doors?
Mr. LOVELADY - Through that double door that we in the morning when we get there we raised. There's a fire door and they have two wooden doors between it.
Mr. BALL - You came in through the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.

Backes said they made all of that up. First, he tried to say that they instructed Lovelady to lie but when I pointed out the impracticality of that, he changed it to them concocting the testimony. You know, like his changing the arm from that of Roy Lewis to that of a mystery black man who couldn't otherwise be seen. And that was after posting this:



The problems with the above art from an anatomical standpoint alone are numerous and overwhelming.

But, the point is that when you acknowledge that the Warren Commission was up to no good, concocting whole swaths of testimony and inventing actions that never remotely happened, what difference does it make that "the Commission was satisfied that Oswald did not appear in the photograph"?

If the Warren Commission itself was a criminal enterprise engaged in criminal activity, what difference does it make what satisfied them?





No comments:

Post a Comment

Note: Only a member of this blog may post a comment.