So, Gerry Spence pulled out the Altgens photo and got Marrion Baker to admit that "he resembles Oswald."
But, Bugliosi, of course, wasn't going to let that stand without rebuttal. So, he brought Buell Frazier back. Frazier had already been questioned by both attorneys and was presumably done. But, Bugliosi brought him back.
Who's that?
That's Billy Lovelady?
Who was Billy Lovelady?
He was an employee of Texas School Books.
Were you standing near him?
Yeah, I was standing back up in the shadows where you can't see me, up several steps back. He was standing down in front of me.
(That's impossible. Doorman was on the top level. Nobody was above him, and there were no steps behind him.)
Spence crossexamined:
You were way back in the shadows, you say?
Yes, I was way back in the shadows.
How far back would you say you were?
I would say 3 or 4 steps back up.
(3 or 4 steps back up? That's impossible. There were no more steps and no more up!)
Did they look alike, Oswald and Lovelady?
Not really, except that they both had a high forehead. But, Billy was a short and stocky, while Lee had more a slender type frame.
So, you were 3 or 4 steps back up behind Billy?
Yes, Sir.
Did you ever tell that to anybody prior to today?
I don't believe so.
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I must admit that as I watch it, and I hear and see Frazier saying "That's Billy Lovelady" it makes me cringe.
But, here's how I wish Spence had done his cross, in light of what we know today:
Gerry Spence:
So, Mr. Frazier, you say this man (pointing to Doorman) is Billy Lovelady? Is that right?
Yes, Sir.
Are you sure about that?
Yes, I am.
OK, then take a look at this comparison of Oswald and Doorman.
Have you had a good look?
Yeah.
Well, what do you think? Do they look alike? Would you say they resemble each other?
Yes, they do look alike.
Now, let's divide this into two separate categories: the man and the clothes. First, the man. Would you say they look alike as per the man: I mean their size, their shape, their frame, their anatomy. Even their face.
Yes, they kinda do.
But, didn't you say that Oswald and Lovelady had different builds? I believe you said that Lovelady was short and stocky, and that Oswald had a slender frame. I can have the court reporter read it back to you if necessary.
No, that's OK. It's true what I said that Lovelady was short and stocky while Oswald was slender. I'll admit they look alike here, but I can't explain it.
Alright, let's move on to the clothes, Mr. Frazier. Do they look like the same clothes to you, the same outfit?
Well, they do sorta look the same. There's nothing that jumps out at me as being different.
Mr. Frazier, do you have a recollection of Billy Lovelady being dressed the same as Lee Oswald on November 22, 1963?
No, I don't have a memory of that.
Do you recall how Billy Lovelady was dressed that day?
Not really. I really haven't thought about it until now that you're asking me.
So, your testimony is that you don't recall how Billy Lovelady was dressed on November 22, 1963?
I guess I really don't recall.
But, would you agree that it would be a very unusual thing, a very uncommon thing, for two men on the same day at the same place to be dressed as much alike as this? I am referring to what they are wearing and how they are wearing it.
Bugliosi- OBJECTION! Calls for speculation on the part of the witness for which he is not qualified.
Spence- Not qualified? Your Honor, we've all been looking at people and how they dress our entire lives. Aren't we all qualified to answer this question?
Judge- Objection overruled.
Frazier- Yes, it would be uncommon to see that much likeness in the way two men are dressed on the same day.
Spence- Thank you, Mr. Frazier. No further questions.
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