Thursday, December 19, 2013

So Backes, you're joining bpete in saying that if there had been a bus transfer ticket for Oswald, that he definitely would have perceived the expiration time as 1:15 even though there never was any bus transfer ticket for him and the whole story about the bus is complete and total horse shit. Yet, you are adamant that if had ridden that bus and gotten a transfer ticket, then he damn sure would have read it a certain way- blah, blah, blah- even though it's complete bull shit with no ties to reality whatsoever. 

This is what you want to argue about? Really? Because you don't actually believe there was any bus or any transfer ticket or anything close to it. Therefore, why should the debate about the interpretation of the transfer ticket that never happened matter to you in the slightest? 

Maybe stuffing proscenium arches just makes a person grouchy. 

Backes: There's no reason why Oswald wouldn't have arranged for someone to pick him up at work at 12:45.

Cinque: How about the fact that he didn't get off work til 4:45? From Oswald's perspective, what was so special about that day? Are you saying that Oswald had foreknowledge of the assassination? Then he had blood on his hands and was part of the conspiracy. 

You know, Backes, it's not a default. It's not as though someone picking him up can be assumed until proven otherwise. Read that sentence again:

"There's no reason why Oswald wouldn't have arranged for someone to pick him up at work at 12:45."

It's asinine. It's also ass-backwards. You should have said:

"These are the reasons why Oswald would have arranged for someone to pick him up at work at 12:45."

And then you would have provided the reasons.  

And how many times do I have to tell you, Backes, that Oswald had no friends in Dallas? He only had handlers. No friends, no friends, no friends, no friends, no friends. Sometimes repetition drives a fact into the resistant brain.   

So, forget about what Oswald might have wanted. It doesn't matter. It only matters what his handlers wanted. If he left in somebody's car, it was only because his handlers arranged it, not himself. 

So, why would his handlers have wanted Oswald to be driven off somewhere in a car rather than travel by public transportation? What was the problem with public transportation from their point of view? They were very desirous of him being branded a lone gunman, right? If public transportation was good enough for a fabricated story why not for a real one? What was the problem?

And if you're going to ditch the Roger Craig story, what have you got left to support your idea of Oswald's escape from Dealey Plaza in a private car? You have no witnesses. You have no evidence. You don't even have Oswald supporting it. Are you suggesting that Oswald told police that he got a lift from a friend but they changed his story? It wouldn't surprise me if you believe that, but if so, say so. Then tell us what it's based on besides your whim. 

You think this works by you just pulling something out of thin air? No, it starts with something tied to evidence, and you have absolutely nothing (except for the Roger Craig story which you do not accept).

You have provided absolutely NOTHING. You have provided no evidence of anyone Oswald could have asked to pick him up. You haven't named a name- even as a possibility. You have provided no reason why Oswald would have anticipated leaving work at 12:45. You have provided no idea as to where Oswald would want to go at 12:45. If someone picked him up, they apparently didn't take him to Beckley because Mrs. Roberts was looking out the window, and all she saw was a police car, not a personal car. So, was the stop-over at Beckley also made up just like the bus and cab rides?  Did this person pick Oswald up only to drive him directly to the theater? So, the night before, Oswald called somebody, a pal, and said that he had a feeling that a war movie would hit the spot the next day about 1:00, so come by his place of work at 12:45 and take him to the movies? Is that it? Hey, it's your idea, so explain what the hell you are talking about.  

Backes, if you are going to make an argument, make one. Make a case. Build it. Give us an objective, factual basis to believe you. You're worse than the Roger Craig people. At least they point to something with some evidence, some testimony, some people, but you point to nothing. You just say that Oswald left Dealey Plaza in a private car because you say so. You challenge the bus and cab story, but you have no story of your own. You can't name a single person who could have given Oswald a ride. You can't name a single reason why Oswald would have wanted to arrange such a ride or anybody who would have been willing to give him one. Your whole idea is vacuous. It isn't even slightly tethered to reality, not to anything factual, not to anything concrete. You're just a stupid proscenium-stuffing blowhard, and you don't know how to think, never mind argue. You're a moron.   
  

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