Oswald in the doorway: the blog of the Oswald Innocence Campaign, by Ralph Cinque

bpete, you evil lying little bastard. That is the most distorted account of what happened that I ever read. What a stupid dirty mudder-rucker you are. The whole idea that Oswald ate lunch after the assassination or said that he did is preposterous. What Bookout said is a pile of shit. Oswald ate lunch BEFORE the assassination in the Domino room in sight of Junior Jarmon and Harold Norman, and that is beyond dispute.

Bookout's report isn't even consistent with itself. He said that Oswald went to have lunch about noon in the first floor lunch room (the domino room). Then, he went to the 2nd floor lunch room to get a Coke. That is still before the assassination. Then Oswald reportedly said he was back on the 1st floor at the time of the assassination.

Then, Bookout says that Oswald claimed to have a Coke when Baker came in, pistol-drawn. That conflicts with both Truly and Baker who said that Oswald had no Coke. So, did Oswald lie? Or did he even say it?

Get something into your HAY-filled, DONe-crapped-upon head, bpete: The only things we can be certain Oswald said are the things we can hear him say with our own ears. Everything else is iffy. When you frame a man, you frame what he says.

And let's remember that Marrion Baker went through his own push-pull with the FBI over the Coke. An FBI agent wrote an account of what happened on the 2nd floor and asked Baker to sign it. It contained the part about Oswald having a Coke when Baker first saw him, and Baker crossed it out and initialed it. No Coke, no Coke, no Coke, so fuck you, Haydon!

Then it gets worse! Bookout says that Oswald took his Coke and went downstairs and had lunch in the employee lunch room! After the encounter with Truly and Baker?????  That's insane! And he, Bookout, was contradicting himself.

The notion that Oswald ate lunch AFTER the assassination is absolutely insane, one reason being the complete lack of time. The assassination was at 12:30, and it wasn't much after 1:00 that he reached the Texas Theater according to Jim Douglass (JFK and the Unspeakable) so where does that leave time for him to have casually eaten lunch AFTER the assassination? That definitely didn't happen, so Bookout's notes are wrong.

Then he stood around out in front for 5 or 10 minutes with foreman Bill Shelley? That is bull shit.

Shelley and Lovelady left the front for good before Baker even reached the building. Read Shelley's own testimony.

Mr. BALL. On November 22, 1963, the day the President was shot, when is the last time you saw Oswald?
Mr. SHELLEY. It was 10 or 15 minutes before 12.
Mr. BALL. Where?
Mr. SHELLEY. On the first floor over near the telephone.
Mr. BALL. Did you ever see him again?
Mr. SHELLEY. At the police station when they brought him in.
Mr. BALL. Did you see him in the building at any time after 12?
Mr. SHELLEY. No.
Mr. BALL. Did you at anytime after the President was shot see Oswald in the building?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Did you at anytime after the President was shot tell Oswald to go home?
Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.

Don't you think Shelley would have said something about milling around with Oswald outside after the assassination if that had happened?


Mr. SHELLEY. Gloria Calvary from South-Western Publishing Co. ran back up there crying and said "The President has been shot" and Billy Lovelady and myself took off across the street to that little, old island and we stopped there for a minute.
Mr. BALL. Across the street, you mean directly south?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, slightly to the right, you know where the light is there?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. SHELLEY. That little, old side street runs in front of our building and Elm Street.
Mr. BALL. It dead ends?
Mr. SHELLEY. There's concrete between the two streets.
Mr. BALL. Elm Street dead ends there just beyond the building, doesn't it?
Mr. SHELLEY. Well, that's also Elm that goes under the triple underpass.
Mr. BALL. That is Elm that goes under the triple underpass?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. You went to the concrete between the two Elm Streets?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes, where they split.
Mr. BALL. You went out there and then what did you do?
Mr. SHELLEY. Well, officers started running down to the railroad yards and Billy and I walked down that way.

So, Shelley was gone. No way was he out in front when Oswald left.

Mr. BALL. Did you see Truly, Mr. Truly and an officer go into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yeah, we saw them right at the front of the building while we were on the island.
Mr. BALL. While you were out there before you walked to the railroad yards?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.


Mr. BALL. How did you happen to see Truly?
Mr. SHELLEY. We ran out on the island while some of the people that were out watching it from our building were walking back and we turned around and we saw an officer and Truly.
Mr. BALL. And Truly?
Mr. SHELLEY. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you see them go into the building?
Mr. SHELLEY. No; we didn't watch that long but they were at the first step like they were fixin' to go in.


   Mr. BALL. What did you and Billy Lovelady do?
    Mr. SHELLEY. We walked on down to the first railroad track there on the dead-end street and stood there and watched them searching cars down there in the parking lots for a little while and then we came in through our parking lot at the west end.
    Mr. BALL. At the west end?
    Mr. SHELLEY. Yes; and then in the side door into the shipping room.

This was Shelley's way of confirming what Lovelady said, that they went around to the back when they returned.

 Mr. SHELLEY. Mr. Truly left me guarding the elevator, not to let anybody up and down the elevator or stairway and some plainclothesmen came in; I don't know whether they were Secret Service or FBI or what but they wanted me to take them upstairs, so we went up and started searching the various floors.

So then Shelley was guarding the elevator at Mr. Truly's instruction. So, where does that leave the possibility that Shelley was milling around out in front when Oswald departed? It leaves it in the shitter.

And look how free Bookout was with Oswald's time. He has him eating lunch after the assassination, which takes time, then he has him talking to Shelley out front for 10 minutes, and still he had to ride a bus, a cab, get home, change his pants, get his gun, travel on foot to the site of the Tippit killing, kill Tippit, and then walk 14 more blocks to the Texas theater and getting there by shortly after 1:00 according to Jim Douglass when the the assassination only happened at 12:30. It's impossible, and it is impossible for Shelley to have been out in front when Oswald left.

Get this into your head, you little shit-faced, lying, mudder-rucker: there was no encounter between Oswald and Shelley after the assassination. Oswald never said he ate lunch after the assassination. Oswald had no reason to say that he encountered Shelley outside after the assassination. No way would he have lied about that. It wasn't going to help him. He had no reason to lie about it. The one who was lying was Bookout.

Out with Bill Shelley in front could only have meant DURING the assassination. It was the only possible time Shelley could have been there. And the very idea that it referred to what Oswald was doing after the assassination is ridiculous. Why the hell did that matter? Who the hell cares? It's DURING that matters. That's what the police wanted to know, and that's what they asked. And Oswald told them that he was out with Bill Shelley in front.