Oswald in the doorway: the blog of the Oswald Innocence Campaign, by Ralph Cinque

The liars and fakers continue dissembling in response to Dr. McKnight's great assertion:

Bud: 
Several reasons they didn't do it. Oswald told where he was, and never claimed he was outside on the steps during the shooting. Lovelady said he was, and several people confirmed this. They needed the person in the photo to confirm it was he shown in the photo. It isn`t the horse race you are trying to portray it as. 

Glenn Viklund:
That's because Oswald *DID NOT* tell them he was outside of the building during the shooting. You seem to expect sane people to actually believe your interpretations of how this went down? ´Why in the world would they ask Oswald about who was outside when he said he wasn't there? The answer is self evident, they didn't ask him about something they knew *Oswald could not, would not and did not know*. Had Oswald been outside of the building he would have screamed that out to the world press during those two days. And - asked them to go check this with the other employees whom he knew would have spotted him somewhere 
outside. None of which, of course, ever said a word about Oswald being outside during the shooting."

Ralph Cinque: 
You're both dissembling. I'm talking about what happened on November 23, 1963. They hadn't talked to Lovelady yet about the Altgens photo. That was the first time. And none of the other testimonies had happened yet either. And Oswald had already said he was out with Bill Shelley in front. So, why not ask him about it?

People from all over the whole planet registered the thought that it was Oswald in the doorway. That was an immediate reaction upon seeing the Altgens photo. As of that time, as of that day, none of what you people are saying had occurred. 

Oswald did exactly what Viklund denied he said: he told them to check with Bill Shelley. Why do you think he named him? 

Of course, Shelley, when asked, denied seeing Oswald outside, and I believe he was lying.  Shelley was CIA from its inception in 1947, and he knew Oswald going back to the Civil Air Patrol when they were teenagers. There are sound reasons to believe that Shelley was part of the plot. 

Do you understand that at that time, November 23, the day after the assassination, they had not talked to Lovelady about this? And there was just as much reason to talk to Oswald as to Lovelady. 

You people aren't even being logical. The only thing driving the need to ask Lovelady was the possibility that it was Oswald. If it wasn't the least bit in doubt, then why even ask Lovelady? In asking Lovelady, they were acknowledging the existence of doubt. Since there was doubt, they should have asked Oswald as well.


Oswald said he was "out with Bill Shelley in front". Perhaps you were unaware of that, Glenn Viklund, but you're aware of it now. And that means that asking him about the Altgens photo was warranted and made perfect sense.  

Bud: "Oswald told where he was, and never claimed he was 
outside on the steps during the shooting."

Wrong, Bud. At 3:00 PM the day before Oswald told Fritz that he was "out with Bill Shelley in front." So, he did claim that he was outside on the steps during the shooting. 

And we're talking here about simply asking a man a question. It didn't cost anything. It didn't put life or limb at risk. It didn't violate anyone's legal rights. Since so much of the world thought they saw Oswald in the doorway of the Altgens photo, why not ask him about it? What would it hurt?


I am going to report your lame excuses to Dr. McKnight, and I am also going to post them on my blog. Hey, I'm going to make you both famous. 

Look at this internal memo dated November 25. It indicates a lot of worry and concern, and a lot of hustling and bustling over the Altgens photo. Send it here, send there, do this, do that. Obviously, at that point, they weren't sure what it contained. But then at the bottom it says that they talked to Lovelady and he said it was him. And then you get this sense of a big sigh of relief. 

Let's leave aside the fact that we have no proof of what Lovelady said. There is no signed statement from him. There is no recording of him saying he was Doorman. There is just them saying that he said it. But, the point is that, since they obviously didn't know it beforehand, why not ask Oswald at the same time they were asking Lovelady? They knew it had to be one of two men, so why not ask both of them? They could not have been so sure who it was since they were going to such a fuss, making more blow-ups, etc. Why do all that if there was no question whatsoever? 

"A positive identification was made by interviewing Lovelady." What does that mean? It sounds to me like a positive ID was made, not by him telling them, but by them telling him that he was Doorman. Notice that the meaning works just as well that way. If they told him that, like it or not, he was Doorman, and he had better get with the program, then a positive identification was made. 

This is all bull shit. The fact is that they didn't want to hear what Oswald had to say because they knew very well that he would ID Doorman as himself.