You're such a fucking idiot. When people make up stories, they go about it minimally. They just provide what's needed. All that lengthy back and forth about which door they re-entered and where exactly the door was located was nothing anybody would have concocted. It just came out that way in the spontaneous birth of conversation.
And then Shelley confirmed it in his testimony. And even Frazier said that Shelley and Lovelady left right after the interaction with Gloria Calvary (although he didn't remember her name) but that he didn't go with them.
There is no way all of that was made up.
Hey bpete! Or maybe I should call you bbackes since you're morphing into him. Your Fuhrer says that the Warren Commission fabricated huge swaths of testimonies, and guess what? You have to sign on to it. That's because you cited the brief written statements of Shelley and Lovelady to Dallas Police on 11/22, which didn't mention it, as evidence that it never happened, which means that all that WC testimony was made up.
So, you've got the Warren Commission framing Oswald. Isn't altering testimonies just as bad, just as guilt-ridden, as altering photographs? Whose side are you on?
And Backes, I know you're stupid, but why do you have to be so fucking stupid? Why do you have to assume that the Fritz notes were chronological? They were just scratched out notes from a spontaneous conversation.
We know very well that the Coke didn't surface until Oswald's encounter with Mrs. Reid. That is when he had a Coke, and she said it was FULL. Oswald had not Coke with Truly and Baker.
You've got Marrion Baker taking a decided action to remove the Coke from an FBI agent's handwritten account of what he said.
There can't be any doubt that Office Marrion Baker denied that Oswald had a Coke.
So, why do you have to say that the Fritz notes must be chronological. I'll tell you why; it's because you're an asshole.
The notes say: "Claims second floor coke when Officer came in."
Did Oswald lie about when he got his Coke? It's possible. But, it's also possible that Fritz listened a while and when he finally jotted something down the Coke got ahead of the Officer. But the next line:
"to 1st floor had lunch" DEFINITELY got scrambled. There is no fucking way that Oswald went to the domino room to eat his cheese sandwich and apple AFTER the assassination. There was no time for it.
The shooting was at 12:30. Oswald was inside the Texas Theater by shortly after 1:00.
"Warren "Butch" Burroughs, who ran the concession stand at the Texas
Theater where Oswald was arrested, told author James Douglass in 2007 that Oswald came into
the theater between 1:00 and 1:07 pm,"
For that and numerous other reasons, there is no way that Oswald ate his cheese sandwich and apple after the assassination. Therefore, the Frtiz notes are definitely NOT chronological.
But then, Backes and bbackes want to say that after having his leisurely lunch in the Domino room after the assassination, Oswald strolled outside and did some jive-talking with Shelley out front before heading home.
These guys have got nothing but time! Time galore! The simple arithmetic of minutes passing escapes them completely.
So no, Backass, the "next thing" was not Oswald going to the lunch room to have or finish his cheese sandwich and apple.
Finish it! You're saying that he started it when he was in the Domino room earlier when "Junior" and the "short negro" were around, which was well before the assassination, but he still had a half-eaten sandwich left and some browned apple, so he went back there to finish it? Why the fuck would he do that?
This was a man who was on his way home to get his fucking gun! He was in so much danger that he thought he needed a gun! Yet, still being a bit hungry, he thought he'd linger in the Domino room to finish his sandwich and apple first.
Oswald broke for lunch at 11:45, which was 45 minutes before the motorcade. What the hell do you think he was doing that he didn't get his lunch-eating out of the way before the motorcade? Why the hell would he wait?
He didn't. You cited Bookout:
"Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room;
That surely meant before the assassination, you dumb fuck.
So, the chronology of the Fritz notes is definitely wrong. "Out with Bill Shelley in front" definitely meant DURING and not AFTER the assassination since Shelley wasn't out there afterwards. He left immediately for the tracks with Lovelady, and that is on ice.
And how could Shelley encounter Victoria Adams by the elevator if he was milling around out front after the assassination? You think that happened immediately, right? That they made up the trek to the tracks to push it back in order to upset Vickie's timeline? That it really happened right after the shooting when she bolted down the stairs after the last shot? So, you have Shelley inside the building right after the shooting, right? He and Lovelady came in right away and saw Vickie Adams? Isn't that what you claim? So, how could Shelley still be out front when Oswald left if he had already come inside? What, do you have him going back outside? Back out front so that he mingle with Oswald? Is that it, you fucking shithead? But that can't be true because both Shelley and Lovelady said that Roy Truly told them to guard the freight elevator.And after that they had to give the police a tour of the 6th floor. There was no mingling around out front for them. Shelley didn't go back outside, you fucking moron, you stupid idiot, you filthy, rotten, Kennedy-killing bastard.
He didn't. You cited Bookout:
"Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room;
That surely meant before the assassination, you dumb fuck.
So, the chronology of the Fritz notes is definitely wrong. "Out with Bill Shelley in front" definitely meant DURING and not AFTER the assassination since Shelley wasn't out there afterwards. He left immediately for the tracks with Lovelady, and that is on ice.
And how could Shelley encounter Victoria Adams by the elevator if he was milling around out front after the assassination? You think that happened immediately, right? That they made up the trek to the tracks to push it back in order to upset Vickie's timeline? That it really happened right after the shooting when she bolted down the stairs after the last shot? So, you have Shelley inside the building right after the shooting, right? He and Lovelady came in right away and saw Vickie Adams? Isn't that what you claim? So, how could Shelley still be out front when Oswald left if he had already come inside? What, do you have him going back outside? Back out front so that he mingle with Oswald? Is that it, you fucking shithead? But that can't be true because both Shelley and Lovelady said that Roy Truly told them to guard the freight elevator.And after that they had to give the police a tour of the 6th floor. There was no mingling around out front for them. Shelley didn't go back outside, you fucking moron, you stupid idiot, you filthy, rotten, Kennedy-killing bastard.
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