Saturday, October 12, 2013





About the above collage, Ott Rovgeisha said on McAdams' forum:

It is a blurry image of someone who has somewhat similar features with Lee 
Harvey Oswald. Many witnesses have identified this to be Billy Lovelady. I 
still can't believe you are wanting to believe that Oswald was outside 
while he kept quiet about his wonderful alibi and not only did he keep 
quiet, but by his own admission, he was INSIDE the building. 

He denied many things, rather carelessly. 
What stopped him from denying being inside the building? 

That note, about Bill Shelley is not a statement. We do not have first 
hand conformation (any audio tapes etc) to confirm that Oswald ever said 
that. 

I REALLY REALLY REALLY think that Oswald would have done NOTHING BUT TALK 
about how he was OUTSIDE when the shots were fired. He said he was 
innocent but did NOT deny being inside the building, on the contrary. 

I cannot image why you choose to believe it is Oswald there, when Oswald 
ADMITTED being in the building whereas it would be difficult to believe 
that he would NOT have repeated that he was OUTSIDE times and times again, 
if he had been. 

It is a blurry, out of focus black and white photo of somebody who's 
identity was in dispute. It is not hard photographic evidence that Oswald 
was in front. 

i still do not get the uniqueness of the clothing argument. 

And were was Billy Lovelady then? More importantly, where is evidence about 
Lovelady's whereabouts if it really was Oswald at the doorway.


Ralph Cinque: Ott, you are just being childish. The Altgens photo IS hard photographic evidence. It shows Doorman wearing Oswald's exact clothing, his unique clothing; clothing that only he could have worn and no one else, and certainly not Billy Lovelady. That absolutely and positively proves Oswald in the doorway. Not could be, not may be, but is. And you are just arguing with the instant replay which shows that it's him.

The uniqueness of the clothing is that only Oswald was wearing an outer shirt that was massively sprawled open to the extent that we see on Doorman. Lovelady had his top button unbuttoned, but the rest of the buttons were buttoned. This collage above abundantly proves that it was Oswald in the doorway. Lovelady was Black Hole Man standing next to him without a face.



It doesn't matter what you think Oswald should have said. He was only on the landing two feet out the door, and if his picture wasn't taken there, then it was no more significant than if he was two feet inside the door. And Oswald had no idea that his picture was taken. But when he was alone with police, he said that he was "out with Bill Shelley in front".

That is a very solid piece of evidence precisely because it was not official. It was some notes that Fritz took during the interrogation which he kept to himself- for the rest of his life. There is no way he would have lied to himself in writing. The fact that he wrote it down means that Oswald really really said it.

Look at this image again, Ott, because the difference between them really is night and day. Oswald and Doorman are dressed exactly the same, proportioned exactly the same, and even standing the exact same way. Lovelady has a completely different physique, a completely different shirt, and it isn't even configured the same as the others, even though it was only minutes after. It is simply impossible for him to have been Doorman. He practically looks like a different species. 

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