Saturday, February 15, 2014

Beatleboy:

OMG, the more you people talk the stupider you sound.  Let me -- EASILY -- pick apart your foolish arguments.  Okay, no one is willing to say Oswald is in the doorway but all kinds of people are willing to say what floor he was on at what time, blah, blah, blah.  Makes absolutely no sense.  And as for no one liking Oswald and sticking up for him, you have no clue regarding human nature.  Anyone seeing him there would have DEFINITELY said so to somebody because that's what people do when they find they are connected to something famous (or infamous).  Put yourself in that situation of being someone who worked with him and saw him in the doorway at the time of the shooting.  You're going to think, "Well, I was there and I know Oswald didn't do it but he was rude to me once so I'll just keep my mouth shut even though it's the biggest secret I could possibly have in my lifetime and involves the assassination of the President"?  Dumb, dumb, dumb.

As for Cronkite with the photo...  I'll take your word for this but you fail to say why that photo was newsworthy to him.  Did he go on the air and say, "Here's a photo showing Oswald was not in the doorway"?  Uhh, I doubt it.  And you really believe that only a few hours later the photo was already doctored?  Hmmm, didn't know they had Photoshop back then.

As for Frazier and Lovelady and Linda Lovelace and Bonzo the Chimp and anyone or anything else you want to throw in there ... WHO CARES?!  I don't know who those people are and couldn't care less if they said they kidnapped the Lindbergh baby.  I've come to my conclusions using ONLY the very items you say are evidence supporting your position ... and common sense.  And that tells me you are so full of shit you need to wipe your mouth with toilet paper after you speak.


Ralph Cinque:

You don't know who Frazier and Lovelady are? Then, why are you claiming to know anything about this?

People reported seeing Oswald BEFORE the assassination. That they allowed because they could always dispute the time. "No, it wasn't 12:25, it was 12:15." Isn't that what the FBI did to Carolyn Arnold? You probably don't know who she is either. 

 But, there was no disputing the time of the Altgens photo because you can see JFK reacting to being shot. So no way was the Warren Commission going to interview anyone who would state for the record that Oswald was in the doorway and that the Man in the Doorway was Oswald. 

You, Beatle-boy, have a problem grasping the degree of damage. Saying that Oswald was standing in the doorway during the shooting and that he is seen in the Altgens photo does far more damage than the other things you mentioned, and I mean lethal damage.

HEY! There is no way they were going to allow someone to say it was Oswald in the doorway and put it in the Warren Report. ARE YOU NUTS? You act as though it would have been fine with them if someone wanted to say that and that they would have included it without a care in the world. That is insane. How naive are you? 

Frazier said that his life was threatened, and that his family was threatened. And let's remember that people- witnesses- actually did get killed. I've been threatened myself, which you can listen to here:

http://soundcloud.com/ralphcinque/threats2

Stop being so obtuse. TSBD employees were in fear after the assassination. And I mean in fear for their lives. 

Walter Cronkite showed a cropped and very sparse (poor resolution) version of the Altgens photo, but it showed the limo; it showed JFK reacting to being shot; it showed the TSBD behind; and it showed the Secret Service agents peering back ominously at the TSBD. What more did they need? It told the story they were trying to tell. 

And they had from 12:30 Central to about 7:30 Eastern (6 hours) to alter the Altgens photo, which was plenty enough time, even without Photoshop.

And I'll tell you what I believe: the official story of the JFK assassination is a state lie, and they use all the power of the state to maintain it. But, the biggest threat to them today is the power of the Internet. The state's ability to control the information people receive has declined a lot, and it will continue to decline more as more and more people tune out official sources and see them for what they are. We are living at a time of tremendous upheaval, and that includes economic upheaval, political upheaval, and information upheaval. It's going to be a wild ride, but the official story of the JFK assassination is already a dead man walking; it has no chance of surviving.  

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