Saturday, April 5, 2014

The following is a portion of what CurtJ posted on McAdams' forum. It is very telling information from John Armstrong about the Two Oswalds. There is no getting around this stuff. There is no evidence that Harvey had any of the wounds or scars that Lee had. They were two different young men.  

One of the marines who knew LEE Oswald during his time in Japan was Richard Bullock. Bullock remembered that "Ozzie" was not in the radar section, but was a radio communicator. Some of you may recall that Sergeant Donald Goodwyn, who knew LEE Oswald at Camp Pendleton, also remembered that the Oswald he knew was a radio communicator. Bullock knew LEE Oswald as "Ozzie" and said, "He was NOT the guy I saw in the picture on TV shot by Jack Ruby." Bullock looked at a color mug shot of Lee Harvey Oswald taken shortly after he was taken into custody by the police and said, "It looks nothing like him. That's not the man I knew. The man I knew was 30-40 pounds heavier and 3-4 inches taller than the man accused of killing President Kennedy."

The Marines who knew the tall, husky LEE Oswald said that he never spoke about communism, was not interested in politics, never studied or spoke a foreign language, occasionally got into fights, and was always drinking. Peter Cassisi said that Oswald came back from leave several times completely drunk, and Jerry Pitts recalled one night when Oswald was passed out drunk in the parking lot next to the barracks. Pitts, along with Pete Connor, said that LEE Oswald hated the name "Harv" or "Harvey" and would fight anyone who persisted in calling him by either of these names. 

On October 27, Richard Cyr was standing about 15 yards from the barracks and heard what sounded like a gunshot inside the building. Cyr and other marines ran into the barracks and found LEE Oswald sitting on his locker with a nickle-plated derringer laying nearby on the floor. Oswald, with little emotion, said "It seems as though I've shot myself." LEE Oswald was taken to the US Navy Hospital in nearby Yososuku where a navy surgeon closed his wound and allowed the slug, which lay just below he surface on the back side of Oswald's upper left arm, to remain in his arm. A week later the doctor made an incision on the back side of Oswald's arm, removed the slug, and closed the wound with stitches. The shooting resulted in 2 scars in LEE Oswald's left arm above his elbow. Neither of these scars were noted by Dr. Earl Rose, who performed the autopsy on HARVEY Oswald after he was killed by Jack Ruby in 1963. HARVEY did not have a mastoid scar or scars on his upper left arm from a gunshot wound. LEE Oswald had these scars. The absence of numerous scars on the body of HARVEY Oswald are more "smoking guns." 

In November, LEE Oswald was on maneuvers in the Philippines and later aboard the USS Cayuga County en route to the island of Ishima. During the Christmas holidays of 1957 LEE Oswald was aboard the USS Terrell County in the south China Sea, while his tall, nice-looking mother was still living in her apartment at 3830 W. 6th in Ft. Worth, and still working at Paul's Shoe Store. During the Christmas holidays a group photo was taken of store employees, and in the middle of this group is LEE Oswald's mother--the tall, nice-looking Marguerite Oswald. When this photo is compared with a photo of the short, heavy-set Marguerite Oswald impostor, anyone can see that their appearance, height, and weight are very different. These photos of two different women, both using the name Marguerite Oswald, are a very important "smoking gun." 

The Marines who knew the tall, husky LEE Oswald said that he never spoke about communism, was not interested in politics, never studied or spoke a foreign language, occasionally got into fights, and was always drinking. Peter Cassisi said that Oswald came back from leave several times completely drunk, and Jerry Pitts recalled one night when Oswald was passed out drunk in the parking lot next to the barracks. Pitts, along with Pete Connor, said that LEE Oswald hated the name "Harv" or "Harvey" and would fight anyone who persisted in calling him by either of these names. 

On October 27, Richard Cyr was standing about 15 yards from the barracks and heard what sounded like a gunshot inside the building. Cyr and other marines ran into the barracks and found LEE Oswald sitting on his locker with a nickle-plated derringer laying nearby on the floor. Oswald, with little emotion, said "It seems as though I've shot myself." LEE Oswald was taken to the US Navy Hospital in nearby Yososuku where a navy surgeon closed his wound and allowed the slug, which lay just below he surface on the back side of Oswald's upper left arm, to remain in his arm. A week later the doctor made an incision on the back side of Oswald's arm, removed the slug, and closed the wound with stitches. The shooting resulted in 2 scars in LEE Oswald's left arm above his elbow. Neither of these scars were noted by Dr. Earl Rose, who performed the autopsy on HARVEY Oswald after he was killed by Jack Ruby in 1963. HARVEY did not have a mastoid scar or scars on his upper left arm from a gunshot wound. LEE Oswald had these scars. The absence of numerous scars on the body of HARVEY Oswald are more "smoking guns." 

In November, LEE Oswald was on maneuvers in the Philippines and later aboard the USS Cayuga County en route to the island of Ishima. During the Christmas holidays of 1957 LEE Oswald was aboard the USS Terrell County in the south China Sea, while his tall, nice-looking mother was still living in her apartment at 3830 W. 6th in Ft. Worth, and still working at Paul's Shoe Store. During the Christmas holidays a group photo was taken of store employees, and in the middle of this group is LEE Oswald's mother--the tall, nice-looking Marguerite Oswald. When this photo is compared with a photo of the short, heavy-set Marguerite Oswald impostor, anyone can see that their appearance, height, and weight are very different. These photos of two different women, both using the name Marguerite Oswald, are a very important "smoking gun." 

It is worth noting that the FBI failed to interview a single co-worker or employer of LEE Oswald's tall-nice-looking mother when she worked for Goldrings, Kreigers, and Holmes Dept Stores in New Orleans and for Clyde Campbell's Men's Store, the City of Ft. Worth, Paul's Shoe Store, Family Publications, and Cox's Department Store in Ft. Worth from 1956 through 1961. The FBI never obtained any employment information, w-2 forms, payroll records, employment applications or anything else from any of her employers. The FBI simply didn't want to interview anyone or gather records from any employer who knew the tall, nice-looking Marguerite Oswald. They intentionally ignored the tall, nice-looking Marguerite Oswald after 1956, and focused their attention on the short, heavy-set Marguerite Oswald impostor. It is also worth noting that from 1956 through 1959 not a single friend, neighbor, or employer of the short, dumpy Marguerite Oswald impostor recalled even a single visit by John Pic, Robert Oswald, HARVEY Oswald, or LEE Oswald. This is perfectly understandable, because the brothers did not know this woman, she was not their mother, nor was she HARVEY's mother. The FBI's failure to interview people in Ft. Worth and New Orleans who knew LEE Oswald and his tall, nice-looking mother--neighbors, friends, employers, co-workers--people who could have described their physical appearance in detail, their place of residence, their employment, etc. is another "smoking gun." 

In October and November, 1958, HARVEY Oswald  was becoming very friendly with Sergeant Nelson Delgado at MACS 9 in Santa Ana, CA. Delgado told the Warren Commission that he and Oswald talked continuously about Castro, Cuba, and the Dominican Republic. Oswald showed Delgado a copy of Das Kapital, which was probably the same book that he had shown to Palmer McBride a year earlier. Delgado, Sergeant Erwin Lewis, Sergeant Camilous Brown, Buddy Simco, Mack Osborne, Neil Tessem, Henry Roussel, Robert Allen, and Paul Hickey all knew and associated with HARVEY Oswald in November and December, 1958--while LEE Oswald was either aboard ship en route to the USA (arrived 11/15/58) or on leave in Texas (returned to El Toro on 12/22/58). 

In November, 1958, LEE Oswald opened a bank account at the West Side State Bank in Ft. Worth and listed his address as the Marine Corps Air Station in El Toro. Robert and LEE went on a short hunting trip and Robert took a photo of the husky, well-built LEE Oswald that appears in Robert's book, LEE, on pages 96-97.  LEE was briefly assigned to the Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS), El Toro, CA., a base for jet-aircraft that housed 5-7000 marines (10 miles southeast of Santa Ana, CA). I want to point out that the Marine Corps Air Station in El Toro (MCAS), and the Marine Corps Air Facility in Santa Ana (MCAF) are two very different bases and are 10 miles apart. LEE Oswald was assigned to MCAS 3 at the much larger Marine Corps Air Station in El Toro, CA, while HARVEY Oswald was assigned to MACS 9 at the much smaller Marine Corps Air Facility in Santa Ana. 

In early 1959, after returning from leave, LEE Oswald was sent to the Lake Meade Marine base north of Las Vegas. One of the marines, Gerald Hansen, noticed that one of the supply clerks called out the name "HARVEY" to a marine who had the name Benjamin stencilled on his shirt. Hansen was curious and asked his sergeant why the man was using the name "Harvey" instead of Benjamin. Sergeant Ackerman replied that even though "Benjamin" was stencilled on this mans shirt he was using the name Harvey. Ackermen went on to explain that the man's real name was Oswald and he was from Texas. 

On January 23, 1959 Marine Corps records show that LEE Oswald was at Vincent Air Force Base in Yuma, AZ--the same day that Nelson Delgado returned from leave and spoke with HARVEY Oswald about Castro's revolution in Cuba. Six weeks later in March, 1959, Allen Graf arrived at El Toro and soon became a close friend of LEE Oswald. Graf was Oswald's platoon sergeant and they spent a lot of time together and often went to the movies. Graf told Warren Commission attorney John Hart Ely that Oswald (LEE) never studied a foreign language and didn't speak Russian. Graf gave Ely the names of several marines who knew and associated with Oswald at El Toro--John Castle, Raymond Glidden, James King, Abraham Rubenstein, Goutier, Herd, Maulden and Sawchuk. Ely, who's job for the WC was to gather background information on Oswald, was puzzled because this was the first time that he heard the names of any of these marines, including Graf. Ely apparently did not understand that El Toro and Santa Ana were two different bases, he most certainly did not know about HARVEY and LEE, and he never realized that Graf and his fellow marines knew LEE Oswald, and did not know HARVEY. None of the marines named by Graf were ever interviewed by the FBI or the Warren Commission. The FBI avoided nearly all of the marines at El Toro, and focused their investigation exclusively on the MACS 9 facility at Santa Ana, where the short, thin, Russian-speaking HARVEY Oswald had made preparations for his "defection" to Russia. 

In the spring of 1959 Major William P Gorsky was the Assistant Provost Marshall at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro. According to Gorsky's files LEE Oswald had been arrested for hitch hiking and was discharged from the marines in March, 1959. Once again the FBI and Warren Commission avoided this problem by simply failing to conduct a proper investigation and failing to obtain Oswald's discharge papers from Major Gorsky. Their refusal to investigate LEE Oswald in El Toro, or interview Marines who knew him, is another very important "smoking gun." 

After LEE Oswald was discharged (March, 1959) he stayed away from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, but was seen in several locations including Coral Gables, Key West, New Orleans, and Cuba. His tall, nice-looking mother terminated her employment at Cox's Dept. Store and moved away from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. She returned to New Orleans and from 1959 through 1961 worked in the ladies department at Goldrings and Holmes Department Stores and at Kriegers. Mrs. Logan Magruder, who knew the tall, nice-looking Marguerite Oswald for over 20 years, saw and talked with her at Kreigers (circa 1959-60). Mrs. Oris Duane saw and spoke with Marguerite at Goldrings (circa 1960). Marguerite Oswald remained in New Orleans, undoubtedly changed her name, and never returned to Ft. Worth. 

From the spring of 1959 onward, the only woman using the name "Marguerite Oswald" in Ft. Worth was the short, heavy-set impostor. And, beginning in the spring of 1959, the only person in the Marine Corps using the name "Lee Harvey Oswald" was the short, thin, Russian-speaking impostor--HARVEY Oswald. The multi-year preparations for Oswald's "defection" to Russia were now complete. HARVEY, who allegedly taught himself Russian by listening to Russian records and reading Russian newspapers, passed a Russian language exam in February, 1959. He made sure that everyone knew about his interest and ability in the Russian language. The Marguerite Oswald impostor was also preparing for his upcoming "defection." In January, 1959 she visited Dr. Milton Goldberg in Ft. Worth and told him that her son "wanted to defect to Russia." HARVEY Oswald's ability to speak near-perfect Russian, without any formal training, is an irrefutable "smoking gun." 

Throughout the summer of 1959 HARVEY Oswald continued to promote communism and anything and everything Russian to fellow marines. On September 4, HARVEY Oswald applied for a passport in Santa Ana, California. But the passport contained a photo of LEE Oswald--not HARVEY.  If this photo is compared with a photo taken of HARVEY Oswald a week later, standing next to Robert Oswald, you can see they are two different people. 

On his passport application HARVEY listed Robert Edward Lee Oswald as his father and gave his birth date as 1908, when in fact the correct date was 1896. And he listed Marguerite Claverie Oswald as his mother and gave her birth date as 1909, when the correct date was 1907. HARVEY listed his date of departure as September 21 and his port of departure as New Orleans. HARVEY knew exactly where he was going and how he was going to get there even before he was discharged from the Marines. On September 11 HARVEY was given a Department of Defense photo ID card. But the photo on the card was a composite--the left half of the photo was of LEE Oswald, while the right half of the photo was of HARVEY Oswald. This allowed either HARVEY or LEE to use the ID card. I would like to point out that a nearly identical card was found on Richard Case Nagell in September, 1963--only 2 months before President Kennedy was assassinated. 

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