Thursday, November 20, 2014

This is from a debate on McAdams' forum concerning whether Oswald had this bag with him on the ride to Irving with Wesley Frazier, and the whole idea that Oswald retrieved a rifle from the home of Ruth Paine. What follows is a post of mine from that discussion. 



Oh no you don't. I said the bag was, obviously, manufactured, and you can't deny it. The bag could have had an industrial purpose for enclosing a particular object. But, it was definitely not hand-made. Oswald did not make the bag from materials at the TSBD. That nonsense has to stop. 

An even though it was folded, and it's OK to presume that one would fold it in order to carry it around, it is not OK to presume that one would hide it. Why hide it? Since Oswald would be unable to hide it the next morning when it contained the rifle (supposedly) why hide it the night before? What would be the point of that?

As I said, the whole story is ridiculous. The idea that the bag went unnoticed by Marina and Ruth is ridiculous. The idea that Oswald was milling around that garage, looking for the rifle, finding the rifle, disassembling the rifle, and putting the pieces of the rifle into that long bag with all the squeaking and rustling and other noise that would have been involved, and yet Marina and Ruth were oblivious to all of it- including his absence from the main house during the time it took him to do all that is ridiculous. 

And what about this testimony of Marina?

Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether your husband carried any package with him when he left the house on November 22nd?
Mrs. OSWALD. I think that he had a package with his lunch. But a small package.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you know whether he had any package like a rifle in some container?
Mrs. OSWALD. No.

So, what kind of pretzel logic do Oswald accusers have to resort to?

They've got Oswald hiding that big bag from Frazier on the way in, which even folded would have been large, and to have it all tucked under his clothes would have been very uncomfortable, especially sitting in a car. Then, he would have had to hide the bag from Marina and Ruth similarly. Then he would have had to disappear for a time, unannounced and unnoticed- because obviously they would have remembered if he excused himself to do something in the garage- to retrieve the rifle and process it for transport. "Where's Lee? What happened to Lee?" "Where'd he go?" 

Are you aware that when a visitor comes to the house- someone who doesn't live there- even if he is rather frequent visitor, and Oswald was once-a-week visitor- he becomes the focus. He's the nexus. He's the vortex. He's the center of attention.

Imagine if you had such a visitor at your house, say a friend or neighbor. So, the guy shows up, and you greet him. Then, he disappears. He goes out into your garage to do something- something as involved as finding a rifle, disassembling the rifle (and presumably Oswald had to find the tools to do that) and then placing all the pieces of the rifle into the bag, and then presumably finding a place to hide the bag until it could be retrieved the next morning- and you don't notice that he's gone. 

Are you going to say that Oswald did it in the middle of the night? No. You can't. It's quiet at night, and even the house squeaks are heard. Someone rattling around in the garage would definitely be heard. And especially the sound of a paper bag being manipulated? That is noisy!   

Plus, Oswald was sleeping with his wife. Right next to his wife. So, he gets up out of bed, and she doesn't notice. Then, he is rattling around in the garage, and she doesn't hear a thing. Then, he re-enters the room and gets back into bed with her, and she didn't notice that either. She is in such a deep sleep that she was oblivious to all of it? She would have had to be in a coma.  

And if you did hear a rattling around in your garage, what would you think? What would you do? Wouldn't you worry that it was a burglar? I might worry that a stray animal got in there. But either way, I am going to get up and check it out, and I mean gun in hand. 

Plus, Frazier said it was a grocery bag. He used the word "grocery" several times. 

Mr. BALL - What did the package look like? 
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I will be frank with you, I would just, it is right as you get out of the grocery store, just more or less out of a package, you have seen some of these brown paper sacks you can obtain from any, most of the stores, some varieties, but it was a package just roughly about two feet long. 
Mr. BALL - It was, what part of the back seat was it in? 
Mr. FRAZIER - It was in his side over on his side in the far back. 
Mr. BALL - How much of that back seat, how much space did it take up? 
Mr. FRAZIER - I would say roughly around 2 feet of the seat. 
Mr. BALL - From the side of the seat over to the center, is that the way you would measure it? 
Mr. FRAZIER - If, if you were going to measure it that way from the end of the seat over toward the center, right. But I say like I said I just roughly estimate and that would be around two feet, give and take a few inches. 
Mr. BALL - How wide was the package? 
Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I would say the package was about that wide. 
Mr. BALL - How wide would you say that would be? 
Mr. FRAZIER - Oh, say, around 5 inches, something like that. 5, 6 inches or there. I don't-- 
Mr. BALL - The paper, was the color of the paper, that you would get in a grocery store, is that it, a bag in a grocery store? 
Mr. FRAZIER - Right. You have seen, not a real light color but you know normally,  the normal color about the same color, you have seen these kinds of heavy duty bags you know like you obtain from the grocery store, something like that, about the same color of that, paper sack you get there. 

How could anyone take this to be a grocery bag?

http://tinypic.com/r/11ghqwm/8 


The inane and cacophonic reasoning of the Oswald accusers is as desperate as it is ridiculous. And it goes to show that NOTHING will dissuade them; NOTHING will divert them; and NOTHING will cause them to budge. The official story is their story, and they are sticking to it- come hell or high water.  They will go down with the ship.

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