Oswald in the doorway: the blog of the Oswald Innocence Campaign, by Ralph Cinque

This is a new article by Richard Charnin just posted today. I'm very grateful for it because Richard has quite a big web following.  




JFK Assassination: Was LHO standing in front of the Texas Book Depository at 12:30?

Richard Charnin
Feb. 12, 2014

According to Dallas Captain Will Fritz’s notes, Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”.

From the JFK Lancer site: Previously it had been told there were no notes taken from the Oswald interrogations the weekend of President Kennedy’s assassination, but first FBI Agent Hosty found his notes (included in his book) and now the Fritz notes are found. Released by the ARRB 11-20-97.

http://www.jfklancer.com/Fritzdocs.html

Ralph Cinque has displayed evidence that the Altgens6 photo showed Oswald was in the Doorway. David Von Pein admitted that there were TWO arrows placed on the photo at the Warren Commission. The first arrow was placed by Buell Frazier pointing to Doorman standing at the extreme left. Frazier claimed it was Billy Lovelady. But Lovelady pointed another (barely visible) arrow to himself in the center of the doorway as he was shielding his eyes from the sun. You don’t forget where you were when the president was shot. Von Pein conceded that two arrows were drawn.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20007



David Von Pein claimed that both arrows pointed to Lovelady. But there was just ONE arrow pointing to Doorman.

Von Pein wrote: “Note that Warren Commission Exhibit No. 369 (which is a picture of James Altgens’ photograph showing Doorway Man) was actually marked with TWO different arrows pointing toward Lovelady (aka Doorway Man).

CE369 was first marked with an arrow by Buell Wesley Frazier on March 11, 1964, at 2 H 242: http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/html/WC_Vol2_0125b.htm

And that same exhibit was then marked with another arrow by Billy Lovelady himself on April 7, 1964 (at 6 H 338): http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/html/WC_Vol6_0174b.htm

When looking at the picture of CE369, I cannot see the second arrow that was drawn in. I see only one dark arrow to the left (west) of Lovelady. But the testimony is very clear — TWO arrows were drawn on CE369, the first one by Wesley Frazier when the exhibit was first introduced into evidence by the Warren Commission on March 11th; and a second arrow marked on the same picture by Billy Lovelady on April 7th.

Now, from the testimony, it’s a bit unclear as to which witness (Frazier or Lovelady) drew in the dark arrow that is easily visible in CE369. But that visible arrow might very well have been drawn by Frazier and not Lovelady. But I’m not entirely sure of that.

But Joseph Ball’s instructions to Lovelady might give a clue. Ball said this to Lovelady:
“Take a pen or pencil and mark an arrow where you are. …. Draw an arrow down to that; do it in the dark. You got an arrow in the dark and one in the white pointing toward you.”

So, via the above testimony, it’s possible that Lovelady’s arrow is “in the dark” and cannot be easily seen.

I suppose this confusion about who drew the dark arrow pointing to Doorway Man in CE369 will spark some additional controversy concerning the true identity of the man in the TSBD doorway, with some conspiracy theorists possibly wanting to now claim that Billy Lovelady didn’t really mark CE369 at all with an arrow in 1964.

But it’s quite clear to me from the Warren Commission records that BOTH Wesley Frazier AND Billy Lovelady drew separate arrows pointing to the SAME PERSON (Doorway Man) in Commission Exhibit No. 369.

And, of course, as I’ve pointed out in previous posts, there’s also Wes Frazier’s testimony at the 1986 mock trial in London, where Frazier identified Doorway Man as Lovelady.”

But David, just where is that second arrow? Look closely at the man in the MIDDLE of the entrance. His arms are raised to shield him from the sun. Lovelady pointed to himself as the man in the middle by placing an arrow, the tail of which is barely visible over his right arm. WC testimony is definitive: TWO arrows. Do you believe Lovelady superimposed his arrow EXACTLY over Frazier’s? Why did he NOT just place it under Frazier’s arrow? Because he wanted to tell the truth about where he was standing. So he placed the arrow over himself.

Let’s look at Lovelady’s Warren Commission testimony.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/lovelady.htm

Attorney Joseph Bell took out CE 369 with the arrow in the white pointing to Doorman that Buell Frazier had drawn:

Mr. BALL – I have got a picture here, Commission Exhibit 369. Are you on that picture?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL – Take a pen or pencil and mark an arrow where you are.
Mr. LOVELADY – Where I thought the shots are?
Mr. BALL – No; you in the picture.
Mr. LOVELADY – Oh, here (indicating).
Mr. BALL – Draw an arrow down to that; do it in the dark. You got an arrow in the dark and one in the white pointing toward you. Where were you when the picture was taken?
Mr. LOVELADY – Right there at the entrance of the building standing on the top step, would be here (indicating).
Mr. BALL – You were standing on which step?
Mr. LOVELADY – It would be your top level.
Mr. BALL – The top step you were standing there?
Mr. LOVELADY – Right.

Ralph Cinque asked:
What is Ball talking about? We know now that the arrow Lovelady drew pointed to a different figure than to what Frazier pointed to. So how could Ball say, “You got an arrow in the dark and one in the white pointing toward you” when the “you” was different figures?

Are you wondering if there was also an arrow in the dark above Doorman that might have been the one that Lovelady drew? Well, see for yourself.

A very comprehensive physical and photographic analysis confirms Billy Lovelady’s straight-as-an-arrow testimony that he was NOT Doorman.