Saturday, June 14, 2014

Lance made some choice comments on the LHO is Innocent page:





Gee, I don't know. I'd say that Oswald in the Doorway as a concept IS what you have been opposing:



That seems pretty cut and dry to me. 

And Lance said two other things that are worth noting. He said that he is very open to Sean Murphy's idea that Oswald was Prayer Man:


When I pointed out the obvious, that Oswald was much thinner, and to the point of looking gaunt and starved, while Prayer Man looks stocky and well fed, and that Oswald didn't wear a pull-over shirt or sweater, I got no response. But, look at that guy's mid-section. Besides having a lot of girth there, notice that it is all one-piece. There are not two sides of a shirt coming together. It's solid. So, Oswald wasn't thick and meaty like that guy, and he wasn't dressed like that guy. But, in response to that, Lance just said that Sean had other reasons to make this claim, and I should find out what they are. But look at this:


Prayer Man was still in the doorway when Baker reached the steps. So, if he was Oswald, how could he have beaten Baker to the lunch room? And remember that both Baker and Truly said that Oswald was not the least bit out of breath, not the least bit rattled or spent or recovering from exertion. So, how could he have done that?

Then the other thing Lance said is that he fully endorses the claim that the bus and cab rides were made up by the Dallas Police and FBI. 

So, Lance thinks that on the afternoon of November 22, that Fritz and Hosty and Bookout interviewed Oswald at 3:15, and interview which did not end until 4:15, which you can see here:





So, even in notes that Fritz took only for himself and no one else, he wrote that Oswald claimed to have ridden the cab. Now, that's unusual, to lie to yourself on paper. And then the next day, Fritz wrote down that Oswald apologized for not also mentioning the cab ride for which he paid eighty five cents fare. 

But, it was right after this first interview that they showed reporters the bus transfer ticket. So, how did they get it so fast? Mustn't it be that even before they brought Oswald in and heard what he had to say about how he got from the TSBD to the theater that they were at work concocting the story? That it was all planned well in advance? 

But, we're not assuming that Oswald also lied, are we? We're not assuming that they lied about him taking a bus and cab and that he also lied about it. If Oswald was picked up by a friend and driven to the theater, there's no crime in that; so why lie about it? Why would Oswald have made up a cock and bull story about taking a bus and cab if he didn't? He wouldn't have. So, we have to presume that Oswald told the truth about his transportation, right? If he was telling the truth about not having killed Kennedy, why lie to police about a bus and cab ride? And Lance admits that Oswald was telling the truth about not killing Kennedy.



So, Oswald must have told the truth about his transportation. There is no reason to think otherwise. Therefore, Fritz wrote something phony in notes he took only for himself. And, according to this thinking, police knew full-well how Oswald got transported and started preparing a phony, alternate story about it even before they talked to him. It involved getting the proper bus transfer ticket and getting it ripped according to the time that was involved. But think about the research that was needed to know exactly which bus to say he was on. I'd say that they would have had to start studying and devising and scheming that well before Kennedy was shot. But why would they do that since Oswald hadn't left Dealey Plaza yet? How did they know what he was going to do? How did they anticipate the need for a phony bus and cab ride? 

And think about what it implies about the Dallas Police and the FBI. It means that from the very start- and beforehand- they were lying, scheming, concocting, and fabricating. Since the FBI was central in managing the Doorman issue, why should any of what they said and did about that be accepted? Why should we accept their revision of Lovelady's statement that he wore a red and white striped shirt and blue jeans? Why should we accept the authenticity of their photos of Lovelady, that they didn't doctor them? Why should we accept their claim that Lovelady told them on November 23 that he was the figure in the doorway? If they would lie about Oswald why wouldn't they lie about Lovelady? 

The bottom line is that you can't denounce the FBI and Dallas Police in one breath (about the bus and cab rides) and then use their claims about Lovelady being Doorman in another breath. 

If they framed Oswald, and you admit they framed Oswald, then you can't trust them about anything. They're just a bunch of vicious lying bastards, and you trust them no farther than you can throw them. 

It was a bad day for you, Upperpunk. You exposed your soul, and it's dark. Dark as the dungeon in which you dwell.       

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