Oswald in the doorway: the blog of the Oswald Innocence Campaign, by Ralph Cinque

Let's take a look at the mad ravings of Hasan Yuself. What follows is his post from February 2013 with my comments inserted: 

HY: Ralph Cinque and his friends in the “Oswald innocence campaign” have been raving and ranting that Oswald was standing outside in the doorway of the TSBD and watching President Kennedy’s motorcade as the shots were fired. The man who is supposedly Oswald; seen in the famous James “Ike” Altgens photograph taken at the equivalent of Zapruder frame 255, has been identified as Billy Nolan Lovelady – one of Oswald’s former co-workers at the TSBD, who does bear a resemblance to Oswald.

This issue has been discussed at great length by researchers in the past, and all the evidence indicates that the man in the doorway was Billy Lovelady – and not Oswald. Yet this doesn’t stop disinformation shills such as Cinque from declaring that Oswald was in fact in the doorway, nor does it stop him from insulting those researchers whom disagree with this outlandish claim.

RC: Hey, Yuself! Get something straight: "Disinformationist" applies to someone who is assigned to or paid to disinform. So, it definitely does not apply to me, although I'm not so sure about you. And so far, you haven't said anything of substance. The fact that officialdom says, and has said, it was Lovelady means nothing. I don't give a shit what officialdom says. Maybe you do, but I don't.

HY: I have also researched this claim for some time, and have found absolutely no convincing evidence that Oswald was in the doorway at the time of the assassination. Just consider the fact that no witness to the assassination has ever claimed that Oswald was standing outside the TSBD when the shots were fired!

RC: Wrong, Yuself. Oswald said it. He told Fritz that he was "out with Bill Shelley in front." And he could only have meant during the assassination. Shelley wasn't even out there after the assassination. He left immediately for the railroad tracks with Lovelady. And, you know they were never going to let anyone else say it. What do you think, that if someone had said it was Oswald in the doorway they would have included it in the Warren Report? We just got lucky that the Fritz Notes were found. 

HY: In fact, several of the TSBD employees, such as Buell Wesley Frazier and Ruth Dean, have claimed that it was Lovelady who was standing in the doorway. Also, consider the fact that Oswald never claimed during his interrogations with the DPD, the FBI etc. that he was outside the TSBD as the shots were fired!

RC: See my previous reply. When you bold-faced lie, you sound like a disinformationist. 

HC: Furthermore, why would the conspirators take the enormous risk of witnesses seeing Oswald outside the TSBD, when he was supposed to be on the 6^th floor assassinating the President? There is good reason to believe that Oswald was framed, such as the wallet discovered at the Tippit murder scene, and the demonstrably phoney backyard photographs of “Oswald” holding the rifle (a discussion of the wallet issue can be found.

Finally, and most significantly in my opinion, Oswald was seen shortly after the assassination on the first floor by the Vice President of the TSBD, Occhus Campbell. Campbell related this information to the NY Herald Tribune on the day following the assassination. Furthermore, Roy Truly, the superintendent of the TSBD, was overheard by Dallas morning news reporter, Kent Biffle, informing DPD Captain Fritz that he had seen Oswald on the first floor, as he and Officer Marrion Baker entered the building shortly following the shots (a discussion of this issue can be found.

RC: Get something else straight, Yuself: the images rule. Nothing trumps them, and certainly not your speculations about why would the conspirators do this or that. And the image show that the Man in the Doorway is wearing Oswald's clothes, has Oswald's build, Oswald's stance, Oswald's expression, and more. 

That's the same man, Idiot. What, do you think Billy Lovelady got up that morning and put on the exact same clothes as Oswald? And the first ones to see Oswald after the assassination were Baker and Truly in the 2nd floor lunch room. Oswald got there by walking directly there from the doorway, and he must have left quite early, right after the Altgens photo was taken. 

HY: Yet Cinque and his fellow disinformation shills mention none of this whilst proudly and loudly declaring that they have proven Oswald was in the doorway of the TSBD. JFK assassination researcher, Joseph Backes, has been relentlessly arguing against Cinque’s utter bullshit. For those who are unaware, Backes runs a blog which he has appropriately entitled Ralph Cinque is a stupid bitch. I for one commend Backes for all his efforts in arguing against Cinque’s stupidity.

RC: As it turns out, Joseph Backes is very open to the idea of Oswald being in the doorway-- as Prayer Man. I think it's a ridiculous preference, but even so, it does place Oswald in the doorway. Sean Murphy, Jim DiEugenio, Charles Wallace and others are also Prayer Man advocates. But, Prayer Man doesn't have a prayer. It is Doorman who is wearing Oswald's clothes. He's Oswald. 

HY: One of Cinque’s most outlandish claims is that James Altgens and his wife, Clara Altgens, were murdered, because Altgens had taken the infamous photograph of the doorway man. At least that’s what Cinque believes. Altgens and his wife were discovered dead in their home on December 12, 1995 (see Backes’ blog for more information).

As Backes wrote on his blog, why would the conspirators wait over 30 years to “silence” Altgens - and for some reason, his wife as well? Honest to God, it is because of kooks such as Cinque that many people believe all JFK assassination conspiracy advocates are not to be trusted. As a matter of fact, the so-called mysterious deaths debate is one area of discussion which I tend to keep away, as I believe the number of mysterious deaths has been grossly exaggerated. However, let me state for the record that I do believe the deaths of people such as Dorothy Kilgallen, David Ferrie, and Gary Underhill are very suspicious.

RC: It is because the ARRB was going on, that's why. Altgens was a team player, but they may have been afraid that he was going to say the wrong thing. He was getting old. And, Altgens' death is suspicious. I didn't state it as an absolute fact that he was murdered, but as a suspicion. And it continues to be a suspicion. You forgot to mention what he and his wife died of: gas poisoning, at home, his posh home in Dallas. But, there was no mention of any sulfur smell in the house. There was no mention of any investigation as to why it happened and if anyone was at fault. I doubt Altgens' serviced his own gas furnace. He was rich. And it was reported that besides the gas, they were both in "failing health" anyway. What? Doesn't that sound a bit over the top to you? It does to me. If it's OK to be suspicious about the deaths of Dorothy Kilgallen and David Ferrie, it is OK to be suspicious about the death of James Altgens. And I am.