The fact that there was no mention of the trek to the tracks in their affidavits means nothing. Those were very short statements, and they were not prompted by any questions. If Joseph Ball hadn't interrogated Lovelady, if instead the WC had just relied on him to make a statement, he may not have mentioned it then either. So no, that is NOT a big clue. You are just a big jerk.
So, I am telling you that the trek to the tracks wasn't needed, and they could have said anything else instead. Now, if you don't like that, you come and see me. The complaint department is right at my door.
And no, I don't think the Warren Commission told the truth about everything. They lied when they said Oswald killed Kennedy. They lied when they said Oswald killed Tippit. And they lied when they said Lovelady was Doorman. And they lied about much more. But they didn't hire a writer to write all this:
Mr. BALL - Now, when Gloria came up you were standing near Mr. Shelley?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yeah.
Mr. BALL - When Gloria came up and said the President had been shot, Gloria Calvary, what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I asked who told her. She said he had been shot so we asked her was she for certain or just had she seen the shot hit him or--she said yes, she had been RIGHT CLOSE TO IT to see and she had saw the blood and knew he had been hit but didn't know how serious it was.
(If she was close to it, she had to be down Elm where it was. And since Lovelady was presumably still in the doorway, she had to come up the hill.)
Mr. LOVELADY- So the crowd had started towards the railroad tracks back, you know, BEHIND our building there and we run towards that little, old island and kind of down there in that little street. (can't be sure what he means) We went as far as the first tracks and everybody was hollering and crying and policemen started running out that way and we said we better get back into the building, so we went back into the west entrance on the back dock had that low ramp and went into the back dock back inside the building.
Mr. BALL - First of all, let's get you to tell us whom you left the steps with.
Mr. LOVELADY - Mr. Shelley.
Mr. BALL - Shelley and you went down how far?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I would say a good 75, between 75 to 100 yards to the first tracks. See how those tracks goes---
Mr. BALL - You went down the dead end on Elm?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - And down to the first tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Did you see anything there?
Mr. LOVELADY - No, sir; well, just people running.
Mr. BALL - That's all?
Mr. LOVELADY - And hollerin.
Mr. BALL - How did you happen to go down there?
Mr. LOVELADY - I don't know, because everybody was running from that way and naturally, I guess---
Mr. BALL - They were running from that way or toward that way?
Mr. LOVELADY - Toward that way; everybody thought it was coming from that direction.
Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Then you came back. How long did you stay around the railroad tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, just a minute, maybe minute and a half.
Mr. BALL - Then what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY - Came back right through that part where Mr. Campbell, Mr. Truly, and Mr. Shelley park their cars and I came back inside the building.
Mr. BALL - And enter from the rear?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, sir; sure did.
Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
This is false. It could not have been 3 minutes, not if he saw Baker and Truly after it. Baker reached the TSBD entrance in no more than 20 seconds after the last shot.
Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time.
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, it's---I say approximately; I can't say because I don't have a watch; it could.
Mr. BALL - Had people started to run?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps.
Mr. BALL - Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Did you run or walk?
Mr. LOVELADY - Medium trotting or fast walk.
Mr. BALL - A fast walk?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - How did you happen to turn around and see Truly and the policeman go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Somebody hollered and I looked.
Mr. BALL - You turned around and looked?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - After you ran to the railroad tracks you came back and went in the back door of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Did you go in through the docks, the wide open door or did you go in the ordinary Small door?
Mr. LOVELADY - You know where we park our trucks--that door; we have a little door.
Mr. BALL - That is where you went in, that little door?
Mr. LOVELADY - That's right.
Mr. BALL - That would be the north end of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - That would be the west end, wouldn't it?
Mr. BALL - Is it the one right off Houston Street?
Mr. LOVELADY - No; you are thinking about another dock.
Mr. BALL - I am?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes; we have two.
Mr. BALL - Do you have a dock on the west side and one on the north side of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - East, and well, it would be east and west but you enter it from the south side.
Mr. BALL - Now, the south side---
Mr. LOVELADY - Elm Street is that little dead-end street.
Mr. BALL - That's south.
Mr. LOVELADY - I drive my truck here (indicating) but we came in from this direction; that would have to be west.
Mr. BALL - You came into the building from the west side?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Where did you go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Through that, those raised-up doors.
Mr. BALL - Through the raised-up doors?
Mr. LOVELADY - Through that double door that we in the morning when we get there we raised. There's a fire door and they have two wooden doors between it.
Mr. BALL - You came in through the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Who in his right mind could think all that was contrived? Anything contrived would have been much shorter, much simpler, and much straighter in its delivery. There is way too much "noise" in that exchange. Nobody would ever write such a thing. Who could have possibly written it? These guys were lawyers; they weren't writers. You think the Warren Commission hired a script writer to create that? It's ridiculous.
Now, here is the crucial part:
Mr. BALL - Who did you see in the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - I saw a girl but I wouldn't swear to it it's Vickie.
Mr. BALL - Who is Vickie?
Mr. LOVELADY - The girl that works for Scott, Foresman.
Mr. BALL - What is her full name?
Mr. LOVELADY - I wouldn't know.
Mr. BALL - Vickie Adams?
Mr. LOVELADY - I believe so.
Mr. BALL - Would you say it was Vickie you saw?
Mr. LOVELADY - I couldn't swear.
Mr. BALL - Where was the girl?
Mr. LOVELADY - I don't remember what place she was but I remember seeing a girl as she was talking to Bill or saw Bill or something, then I went over and asked one of the guys what time it was and to see if we should continue working or what.
Mr. BALL - Did you see any other people on the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, yes; by that time there were more; a few of the guys had come in.
Mr. BALL - And you stayed on the first floor then?
Mr. LOVELADY - I would say 30 minutes. And one of the policemen asked me would I take them up on the sixth floor.
Mr. BALL - Did you take them up there?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, sir; I sure did.
Alright, so all he said was that he saw Vickie on the first floor. He didn't say exactly when, and he didn't say exactly where. And he thought she might have been talking to Bill Shelley. And that's it. Nothing else. Then it moved on to him taking the cops up to the 6th floor.
Now, what difference does it make what he did before that? What difference does it make where he went before that? What difference does it make which door he came in? None of that matters. Why would they go to all the trouble to make all that up when they didn't need it? He could have gone anywhere. He could have done anything. What does the trek to the tracks have to do with it? Absolutely nothing.
Read it again. Lovelady didn't say that Vickie was coming down the stairs when he saw her, or that he knew that she had just descended the stairs. He said nothing of the kind. He just said that he saw her on the first floor. That's all. He didn't say anything about what she was doing or what she had been doing or what she had just done. Lovelady said so little about Vickey Adams that the idea that they concocted all that testimony of his about what he did BEFORE he saw Vickey is ridiculous.
Backes, you're whacked! You're a fucking dullard. You're just plain stupid. If your theory is so great, how come Barry Ernest never concluded that what Shelley and Lovelady said they were doing BEFORE seeing Vickey has got to be false? You think you're smarter than Barry Ernest? His tailbone is smarter than you are.
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