Wednesday, October 4, 2017

Here is a blistering post from Amy Joyce on McAdams' forum:

Ralph, there is no doubt that the ambulance and hospital scene didn't go 
down as depicted in the films and the final report. The lack of any blood 
is just one indication. Police and FBI reports are also contradictory. 

You once astutely mentioned the insanity of them moving the dying Oswald 
back into the jail office (out of view) before calling ambulance, when 
they shouldn't have been moving him at all. If they were going to do that 
they might as well have moved him into the waiting car, located just three 
feet away from where he fell, and then followed up by driving him to the 
hospital straight away. That could have saved his life and protected him 
from further victimization. As we all know they unnecessarily picked him 
up and carried him back 30 feet into the office, just to lay him on a 
different floor. That was obviously just to keep him hidden from unwanted 
eyes! 

If that wasn't bad in enough they laid him down a few feet from where they 
brought the supposed perpetrator, a non handcuffed and supposed madman 
that was trying to murder him!  It was senseless, illogical, and 
dangerous. According to police reports the officer's moving the "shooter" 
didn't know that he had been disarmed by Graves, so he could have 
potentially continued to shoot. We obviously need to add insane to the 
list if we are going to believe the DPD was simply just too incompetent to 
protect their prisoner and care for him after he was gunshot. 

Additionally, the so called ambulance service was just a couple of guys 
with an emergency transport vehicle, a service offered by the local 
funeral home. They weren't equipped to give a gunshot victim any medical 
expertise and they didn't; it was just a stretcher and a ride in a station 
wagon. Incidentally, detective Wilbur Cutschshaw reported that the shooter 
was brought into the jail office FIRST, and he was told to guard the door.   
The only people he let enter were the detectives carrying Oswald back into 
the office on a stretcher. They already had a stretcher handy!? That's 
completely opposite of what a picture shows - detectives dragging the 
shooter (face unseen of course) to the jail door, after Oswald had already 
been moved from the scene. 


Ralph Cinque:

Amy, you make an excellent point that since in those days ambulances were just glorified taxis, providing no medical care, that if they were going to move Oswald at all, they should have moved him into that police car that was right there, Fritz' car, and driven him straight to the hospital. A police car has got a siren, and it can travel every bit as fast as an ambulance. There was no need to wait for an ambulance. And, I'll add at this juncture that the cops had the ambulance turn left on Commerce, when all it had to do was jog right on  Commerce a hundred feet, and it would have been at the intersection of Hardin which went north- directly to Parkland Hospital. Traffic was already stopped, so it was no problem. If Sam "Rio" Piece could drive the wrong way on the Main Street ramp, why couldn't the ambulance drive the wrong way on Commerce Street a few feet? They were practically at the intersection. There is no excuse about this. 

Of course, what you say is true about it being theoretically dangerous to lie the shooter and Oswald next to each other, but in reality, we don't know what transpired. I will restate for the record that I don't think Oswald was shot in the garage. So, exactly what happened to him once taken back inside the jail office is wide open to speculation. Was he even lying on the floor in the WFAA footage in which officers are supposedly hovering around him? Was he actually there at that time? How do we know? How can we be certain? The fact is: WE DON'T SEE HIM.

Amy, I need a reference for Cutchshaw saying that Oswald was moved into the jail office on a stretcher. Of course, he wasn't. Leavelle claimed that he carried Oswald in with another officer. The stretcher idea is preposterous, but if Cutchshaw said it, I would like to know when and to whom. 

  

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