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RALPH CINQUE SAID:
"Out with Bill Shelley in front" was Oswald's alibi--for the shooting. He
You can't read very well, Ralph. Captain Fritz specifically asked Oswald
where he was located AT THE TIME THE PRESIDENT WAS SHOT. And Oswald said
he was on the first floor at "about that time". Oswald said nothing to
Fritz about being "out with Bill Shelley in front" at the exact time of
the assassination. And Fritz' report in that regard perfectly matches what
we find in the joint FBI report filed by Hosty and Bookhout.
From the Hosty/Bookhout report:
"Oswald claimed to be on the first floor [NOT "OUT WITH BILL SHELLEY IN
FRONT"] when President John F. Kennedy passed this building." [WCR, page
613]
http://history-matters.com/
From Captain Fritz' report:
"I asked him what part of the building he was in at the time the President
was shot, and he said that he was having his lunch about that time on the
first floor." [WCR; page 600]
http://history-matters.com/
Why keep pretending that "out with Shelley" was Oswald's alibi, Ralph?
Because it's quite clear from the corroborative reports filed by Fritz,
Bookhout, and Hosty that you're dead wrong.
"Out with Bill Shelley in front" was Oswald's alibi--for the shooting. He
didn't need an alibi for being out front after the shooting. Why did it
matter whom he saw when he left for home? No crime was being committed
then. He needed an alibi for the shooting, which they would have solicited
and which he would have volunteered. Do you see any other alibi in there?
If "out with Bill Shelley in front" was not his alibi, then he didn't give
one, which means that they didn't ask for one. And that is ridiculous.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:matter whom he saw when he left for home? No crime was being committed
then. He needed an alibi for the shooting, which they would have solicited
and which he would have volunteered. Do you see any other alibi in there?
If "out with Bill Shelley in front" was not his alibi, then he didn't give
one, which means that they didn't ask for one. And that is ridiculous.
You can't read very well, Ralph. Captain Fritz specifically asked Oswald
where he was located AT THE TIME THE PRESIDENT WAS SHOT. And Oswald said
he was on the first floor at "about that time". Oswald said nothing to
Fritz about being "out with Bill Shelley in front" at the exact time of
the assassination. And Fritz' report in that regard perfectly matches what
we find in the joint FBI report filed by Hosty and Bookhout.
From the Hosty/Bookhout report:
"Oswald claimed to be on the first floor [NOT "OUT WITH BILL SHELLEY IN
FRONT"] when President John F. Kennedy passed this building." [WCR, page
613]
http://history-matters.com/
From Captain Fritz' report:
"I asked him what part of the building he was in at the time the President
was shot, and he said that he was having his lunch about that time on the
first floor." [WCR; page 600]
http://history-matters.com/
Why keep pretending that "out with Shelley" was Oswald's alibi, Ralph?
Because it's quite clear from the corroborative reports filed by Fritz,
Bookhout, and Hosty that you're dead wrong.
Ralph Cinque: How can you be so dense, Von Pein? I'm not talking about what Fritz said later. I'm talking about when he first got Oswald in a room, how could he not solicit his alibi? I'm talking about the Fritz Notes. How could Fritz not write down Oswald's alibi at that time? Wasn't it the single most important thing he had to write down, where Oswald said he was at the time of the crime? So, when I said, "Do you see any other alibi in there?" I meant within the Fritz Notes. That's what I was talking about.
And, the landing on which Oswald stood was on the first floor. It wasn't on the street, and it wasn't on street level. It was continuous with and an extension of the first floor.
And Oswald most certainly did not claim to be eating at the time of the shots- let alone eating with others. And, you don't have to be Lennie Briscoe (the greatest detective from Law and Order) to know that if the perp says he was eating with some people, you want to talk to those people. Fritz not only didn't talk to Jarman and Norman, he didn't even name them to Joseph Ball. And you know what? Joseph Ball didn't even ask him who they were. Joseph Ball, a lawyer, didn't even ask for their names.
Oswald was NOT eating with Jarman and Norman at the time of the shots, as they were on the 5th floor watching the motorcade at the time of the shots, and we have two pictures of them there. And, Lee Harvey Oswald, being smarter than David Von Pein, knew better than to give a phony alibi, citing alibi witnesses whom he knew would deny his story. The lunch-eating was from earlier, much earlier, and do you know who agrees? Your hero: Vincent Bugliosi. In Reclaiming History, Bugliosi admitted that Oswald ate lunch in the domino room, a cheese sandwich and an apple, where he saw Jarman and Norman, and it lasted until 12:15. I guess Vince thought that that left enough time for Oswald to high-tail it up to the 6th floor. I wonder if Oswald said hello to Bonnie Ray Williams who was eating chicken up there. Maybe it was Kentucky Fried.
Von Pein: in his very first interview, Oswald would have been asked for his alibi, and he would have given it- even if he wasn't asked.
"Me? Kill Kennedy? Are you out of your mind? I was standing in the doorway with Bill Shelley at the time."
As soon as they accused him, the alibi would have went flying out. It's true for Oswald, for you, for me, for anybody, for everybody. You profess your innocence by citing your alibi. It's the main thing that proves your innocence.
Oswald professed his innocence out loud to the public 13 times which we can hear. He certainly would have given police his alibi and at the earliest opportunity.
So, for the dim-witted, if "out with Bill Shelley in front" in the Fritz Notes is not Oswald's alibi, then where is Oswald's alibi in the Fritz Notes? That's: in the Fritz Notes. The Fritz Notes. The Fritz Notes. The Fritz Notes. Where is Oswald's alibi within the Fritz Notes?
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